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News, also for Tuesday continues. Israel and Egypt will begin Mideast peace negotiations on October 12 in Washington, the center of world imperialism. A White House spokesperson for the United Station– uh, United States will participate fully in the ministerial level of talks, so the US– (tape edit) President [Anwar] Sadat invited President [Jimmy] Carter to come to Egypt for the final signing of the proposed Egypt and Israeli peace sellout, we should call it, rather than treaty. Addressing the Egyptian parliament on current Mideast developments, dictator Sadat of Egypt called on Jordan and other Arab countries directly involved in the conflict with Israel, who have stauntly protested the sellout at Camp David, to join in peace nego– negotiations based on the Camp David sellout agreements, but he strongly denounced the Soviet Union who has rejected the Middle East accords.

Secretary of State Cyrus Vance continued with United States’ effort to win Arab support for the Camp David sellout agreements. In talks with Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister [Saud bin Faisal bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud] in New York, New York, US officials regard Saudi support as a key element in the success of Mideast negotiations. At this point, Saudi Arabia also, though conservative if not reactionary government, considers the Camp David summit between Egypt and aggressive, expansionist Israel and US imperialism as a sellout of the peoples of A– the Arab world. The Syrian president [Hafez Al-Assad] continues his efforts to consolidate t– areas between the Arab hair– hardline countries and the Soviet Bloc. After talks with the East German president [Erich Honecker], the modern communist republic of East Germany, he’s expected to urge East Germany to increase military assistance to the Arabs. He’s also expected to make a similar appeal to the Soviet Union when he arrives in Moscow later this month. Moscow, as we say in English.

The Lebanese president [Elias Sarkis] announced today he is forming a new government in a bid to restore peace throughout the country. The president’s remarks were broadcast over Beirut radio on the week of the worst fighting in the past three years. He said he would unveil a new security plan in the next ten days and appoint a cabinet of political leaders to replace the government technocrats now in office. The latest reports from Beirut indicate that the fighting between Christian fascists and Zoro– Zorian uh, Zorian troops has– Syrian troops has finally leveled off after clashes throughout the night in Beirut – once one of the most beautiful capitals of the world – surrounding suburbs and nearby mountain areas. No reliable casualty figures have been yet released, but Christian Phalangist Fascist spokespersons say as a many as 3000 have been killed and wounded in the clashes over the past two days.

At the Vatican, 30 cardinals have been called for a halt– have called for a halt of the bombing of civilian areas in concern for the situation in Lebanon. In Washington, center of world imperialism, State Department says it is nothing– it is noting the heightened fighten– fighting between Christians and Syrians, and that the situation is under intense review. Voice of America of course attempts to make the burden of responsibility upon the Syrians, but it was Egypt [Israel] who invaded Lebanon and still occupy southern Lebanon in its Zionist fascist territoriality.

U.S. State Department said that it has not reached– it has not reached a decision on whether to grant a visa to revision dictator minister– Prime Minister, so-called, Ian Smith to visit the United States. They said the matter is still under review and that the briefing will continued in context of developments in South Africa. The foreign members of Rhodesia’s biracial government – so-called, by Rhodesia, which should be Zimbabwean Patriotic Front under Ruma– Robert Mugabe, Marxist-Leninist, and his nationalist ally, Joshua Nkomo. But the biracial government had been invited by a group of American senators to come to Washington this week to explain their policies. Prime Minister Smith and Executive Council members applied for visas. The other members of the council hold British passports and had previdly– previously visited the USA. I am certain that the same sellout will take place, that USA has shown in her other demonstrations of imperial fascism, fascism in her foreign policy. USA did lift the ban on economic aid and military aid to the fascist regime of Ian Smith, and I’m sure some way will be found for Ian Smith to be received in honors in Washington, the center of world imperialism.

Rhodesia’s biracial government closed down The Zimbabwean Times – not to our surprise – the country’s only black daily newspaper which has been moderately critical of the government policy. The government said the newspaper was being shut down in the interest of safety and security. Of course, they would not dare to let the black people know that they were being treated as slaves. Even Mahatma Gandhi said, long ago, who often, uh, white people today in USA, are quoting and mouthing about all the time, Mahatma Goni– Gandhi said, though he was a pacifist, he said, if it comes between a choice of slavery and violence, I would accept violence without a hesitant thought. And the time has come that slavery exist in Rhodesia and South Africa, and violence is the only way, and struggle, according to Marxist-Leninist views. The newspaper has a circulation of about 20,000 and is owned by a British-based oil corporation, and had the support– it had supported the Anglo-American plan to convene all-party talks with the Patriotic Front, guerilla leaders whose views were very moderate and often published. The Zimbabwean Times is the fourth black newspaper banned in Rhodesia in the last 11 years, but the first b– the biracial government, so-called biracial. There’re only three blacks in it, [Bishop Abel] Muzorewa, and two other religious Uncle Tom leaders. No black people– 97 percent of black people of Rhodesia are represented by the Zimbabwean, which is the rightful name of the country, Patriotic Front. Meanwhile, guerillas attempted – the activists, the liberators – attempted to sabotage the railway bridge along the main road linking Salisbury, the capital, with the South African fascist country and its border.

The political situation in Southern Africa was the subject of the agenda today in Bonn, West Germany, which prides itself as being the successor to [Adolf] Hitler’s Third Reich. Between Susa– Sudan’s president and the West German’s foreign minister [Hans-Dietrich Genscher]– (moves microphone) The foreign ministry’s statement said that the two ministers agreed to the recent Camp David summit accords, must be used as a basis for a broad Mideast settlement which could meet with the approval of all Arab states. And the two men have also given support to the recent United Nations Security Council resolution to continue Western peace efforts for the Southwestern [Africa] peace efforts for the territory of Namibia. That of course which is being resisted by the Union of South Africa, fascist South Africa, upheld by US tax dollars which burns my stomach every time I think of it, four hundred and forty-seven million dollars alone paid out in the first three months of this year, and billions more that came from multi-nationals. South Africa has a military presence, and is denying the right of Namibia to be independent and free. But Africa – all of Africa – is now black and fr– proudly free, except the lower end, Rhodesia and Namibia trembles under the revolutionary might of the people’s will. Soon South Africa will feel the– a thundering and resounding clarion call that 20 white– 20 million blacks will not be oppressed by a bare four million white supremacists.

Sudan’s president [Gaafar Muhammad Nimeiry] arrived in Bonn yesterday for a week-long talks.

Full scale rescue relief operations continued in flood-ravaged districts in Bengal. As overnight rains brought fresh flooding, some 200 people are expected– are reported to be missing from villages in the n– northern districts just last night alone, and another district just outside the state capital of Calcutta, India, reported that hundreds of people are feared to’ve been washed away, if not thousands, by the swelling floodwaters. The act of God. First good harvest that they’d had in many years, and along comes the monsoons and washes away their harvest, and tens of thousands of lives in India. New reports say about one million people in the hardest areas are dead or still at some points awaiting rescue on high points. Contitio– Conditions are indeed reported to be grim.

Meanwhile, an Indian news agency says six persons have drowned– 60 persons, rather, have drowned and several are missing in a boating accident. The new agency– news agency reported earlier Monday that a hundred and fifty people died in the accident, and it was later said that 72 were rescued. The boat over– overturned while carrying pilgrims to a religious festival. It seems that God does not protect his own while they’re going to a (unintelligible word) shrines of festivals and worship.

Britain’s ruling– ru– Britain’s English ruling Labor Party, under the ministry of Prime Minister [James] Callaghan, had a major defeat on Monday. By a better than two-to-one margin, the Labor Party’s annual conference of black people rejected the government’s policy, Mr. Collo– Callaghan is demanding pay increases to be held to six percent over the– uh, five percent over the coming year, rather. Callaghan has already warned, he may resign if the Labor Party does not back his government’s wage and economic policies. The country’s labor– (pause) the policies for black and Indians which are demanding the return to free collective bargaining. The large wage heist– hikes were behind him in his vote, to Callaghan is scheduled to address the Labor Party on Tuesday. If inflation is not kept under control, he will be forced to resign and to conduct elections. Margaret Thatcher, who the polls say will be a– her– his successor, head of the Conservative Party, has promised that all Indians and blacks will not have any problems in England, they will all be removed, be taken up and rounded up in concentration camps and repatria– repatriated to countries that some of them have not seen since their ancestors left it 200 years ago.

Meanwhile, tens of thousands of foreigners stood in a chill, driving rain Monday to give final respects to Pope John Paul, anti-communist. He died of a heart attack last Thursday night, just 24 days after he began his ministry. Over the weekend, hundreds of thousands of people filed by St. Peter’s ba– basi– basilica, where the body lay in state. Funeral services for fo– Pope John Paul are scheduled for Wednesday. May be moved into basilica, if the rains continue. President Carter’s mother, Mrs. Lillian Carter, will lead the American delegation this time. The last time it was Mrs. [Rosalynn] Carter who went, 24 days ago– or 20-some days, or 30 days ago, when the pope [Paul VI] died just before. God’s representative on earth, which the Catholic Church consider the Vicar of Rome to be, the Pope, the Papal seat, over 700 million, which has dropped to nearly 530 million due to the church’s ban on birth control. God’s representative on earth does not seem to be faring very well, as he was 65 years of age and died in his sleep.

Negotiations are expected to begin this week between Nicaraguan President [Anastasio] Somo– Somoza, as Voice of America wants to choose to call him, and any other s– nation with any decency on earth would call him dictator Somoza – and the opposition regarding resolutions to the country’s (pause) bloody political crisis. Bloody murder. Three-fourths of the nation has been bombed into oblivion. A three-nation team from the United States, the Dominican Republic and Guatemala will handle the mediation, all of course are (small laugh) indeed, uh, right wing regimes, under the imperialist control of USA. They’ll handle the mediation, uh, plans to meet in the next few days. President Carter is the chief negotiator and the Dominican Repor– Republic has chosen a right wing governmental aide to be making its representation, and Guatemala the same. USA is so hypocritical. Not one word is mentioned of ho– human rights, while 20,000 are known to’ve been murdered by the regime, and tens of thousand more are missing, as a government with US military aid– our hearts should ache, that our tax dollars are supporting such a fascist regime. Only a (unintelligble phrase) planes and military hardwood– hardware just received from USA. Somoza’s dictatorship has been able to kill his own people and bomb them almost back into the Stone Ages. There have been repeated charges of summary executions and genocide by the Somoza National Guard, all through the country. It– There is no way to estimate, said the Voice of Netherlands, the amount of murder that has been done by the Somoza regime, which is vastly supported and totally upheld by Washington. Even the West chairmen have been sharply critical of US policies in Nicaragua.

And also– they’re– they are somewhat critical of the European money market today on the status of the U.S. dollar (unintelligible under radio) to maintain– to be maintained as the world major currency.

Cambodia, which should have been rightly called Kampuchea, when the Khmer Rouge brought about a communist revolution which was later taken over by the nationalist element, and now have murdered two million of the population, one out of three of the Cambodian people. Human rights violations. UN officials in Geneva released a telegram from Cambodia’s foreign minister interfere in Cambodian affairs, to’ve complained about. Again silence is heard in Washington, when President Carter, who is supposed to be the spokesperson for human rights and the dignity of man, but not one word has been heard about the mass murder in Cambodia, of murder, terror, true horror (unintelligible under radio). Where is Mr. Human Rights now, Carter?

At the top of the news this evening, Egypt will begin the next phase of the Mideast peace negotiations in Washington, and I suppose October 12 would be the most important thing. The State Department says it has not reached a decision yet on whether to grant the visit to Risi– Rho– Rhodesians Ian Smith.

The newspaper publisher and managing editor of the l– last remaining black paper, which has just closed, is to appear in court tomorrow under Rhodesia’s Law and Order Act under emergency power regulations to show cause why he should not be jailed (unintelligible under radio). This charge, if he allowed, the Zimbabwean (unintelligible under radio) publisher is not cleared by the military censor of the three percent element that is ruled by the fascist Ian Smith, again, the white regime of Rhodesia, which could not be upheld if US Congress had not lifted its ban on economic aid and military assistance a few weeks ago. Of course, news had shown along (unintelligible under radio) multinationals had been supporting, and even the CIA supporting the white regime, the three percent, against the 97 percent of Zambia– Zimbabwe, rather, that is under the pe– the control of the Zimbabwean Public [Popular] National Liberation Front. And then he printed an allegedly false statement about the leadership of Ian Smith, accusing him of being an oppressive dictator, which is the truth. He will face ten years. The paper regularly carried the views of externally-based nationalist leader Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe, Marxist-Leninist, until the clampdown on such coverage in mid-August. The English language in Zimbabwean Times was set up– set– eight– set up 18 months ago, and has a circulation of, this report says over 40,000. The Zimbabwean Times is the third black newspaper banned in Rhodesia – or the fourth, rather – in the past 11 years. The earlier bans were issued by the previous white minority fascist government.

Moscow news. Moskva news. Leonid Brezhnev, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, the avant garde of liberation of the world of the Soviet Union, and President of the Presidium of the USSR Supreme Soviet, has greeted the people of Guinea on the twentieth anniversary of their republic. The international countries in support of the liberation movements in South Africa and against apartheid, which means really what it sounds like – apartness – has ended in Bonn, West Germany. The Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko has returned to Moskva from New York, where he took part in the United Nations General Assembly and talks with American side on limiting strategic defense weapons.

Leaders of the German Democratic Republic of Syria– (Pause) Yes. (Pause) (more slowly) The Democratic People’s Republic of Syria have criticized the Camp David separate deal concluded by the sellout agreement of US imperialist, Zionist Israelis and fascist Egypt.

Leonid Brezhnev has congratulated the people of Guinea on the twentieth anniversary of the Guinean republic. The day was observed today all day, the message of support and guarantee, and assurance of their liberation was transmitted by Radio Moscow. Critical and economic independence and in progressive reform (Pause) that it has made will be guaranteed to be maintained from all threats, both foreign and domestic, guaranteed the Soviet Union, the avant garde of world liberation. The message pointed out that the Soviet Union and Guinea championed the cause of world peace and liberation of Africa from colonialism and racism. Leonid Brezhnev, as I said, the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and President of the Presidium of the USSSR Supreme Soviet, said that he was confident that friendship and cooperation went through the two countries would continue forever. Prime Minister [Alexi] Kosygin also– of the Soviet Union has sent his messages of congratulations on the c– occasion to the prime minister of Guinea [Louis Lansana Beavogui].

The International Conference in Support of South Africa Liberation Movements and Against Apartheid closed today. It was attended by day– delegations from over 60 countries, including the Soviet Union, which is the avant garde. Various international (pause) organizations were also represented. Among them were the United Nations and UNESCO. The countries condemned NATO – North Atlantic Treaty Organization, the military adventurers, a– aggressive expansionist fascist imperialist lackeys of US imperialism – and of course USA too for supporting the racist regime. They both were condemned. Speakers stressed that racism and apartheid jeopardized peace and international security. They welcomed the solidarity of the Soviet Union and all other socialist allies of the Warsaw Treaty, with the African peoples fighting for national liberation. They voted unanimously that the Soviet Union and Cuba had proven to be the true friends of Africa, and the Western imperialists, led by USA, the enemies in that– that– the USA and her Western imperialists were on the wrong side of every question, and the Soviet Union and Cuba were on the right side of every issue. Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko returned to Moscow from New York, New York today. He attended the General Assembly session and had talks on limiting strategic arms on Sunday, which were only useful. Andrei Gromyko had a meeting with the Secretary of State Cyrus Vance, and on Saturday, he met with Carter. The uh, Gromyko-Carter meeting stated they had enough to complete the preparation of an agreement on strategic arm limitation beginning– beginnings, at least. Let us hope it’s not too late before the hell of nuclear holocaust rains down upon North America. Though we are safe from it here, it gives us no satisfaction to think of Dr. Daniel Ellsberg, as he addressed our congregation in San Francisco just yesterday, saying that USA will be a wasteland and a desert.

Foreign Minister Gromyko of the Soviet Union, avant garde of liberation, and Carter also discussed produc– reduction of armed forces and armaments in Central Europe and throughout the entire world.

The President of Syria and the General Secretary of the German Socialist Repu– the GDR, Communist modern, East German communist party, has criticized the separate deal sellout between Israel and Egypt concluded at Camp David sellout summit near Washington by Carter. At a reception in Berlin, where president of East Germany is on a visit, it stated that the Camp David agreements in the Middle East do represent problematically issues– problematically an issue for even West Germany. This was a West German delegation that said that, excuse me. They do not provide for the withdrawal of Israeli aggressive fascist troops, the Zionist troops that occupy the West Bank of Jordan, nor the Gaza Strip of Egypt, or the southern part of Lebanon that has been conquered by military force of aggression, and they ignore the rights of all Palestinian people. President of East Germany reaffirmed that the determination of the parties to the confrontation front must strengthen the relation of the Soviet Union and other members of the socialist community. The front was formed by (pause) peace-loving countries, peace-loving countries such as Syria, Libya, Algeria, Democratic Yemen, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, and even Saudi Arabia. The German Democratic Republic and the Syrian president was to visit the Soviet Union also.

Great gains have been made for the Soviet Union in the Warsaw Treaty– the Warsaw Pact Treaty, because of this aggressive act at Camp David.

Serious fighting continues at Beirut this morning, this early hour of 8:30, between the Phalangist Christian fascists – Christians mostly all over the world are fascist, except in Ethiopia – and the security forces. Tanks, artillery and missiles are involved in the nearly– Casualties are reported all throughout the country. The leaders are holding emergency meetings because there’s great fear that at any moment, the Near East could break out into the spark that would lead to World War III, which would mean the end of US society. Over 200 million of our beloved people there would die in less than 13 minutes.

(unintelligible word) hostilities all over the country again. Fa– They are opposed to the presence of the Arab security forces in Lebanon, says– (pause) the uh, Christian security forces, rather, in Lebanon, by a decision of the Arab League to normalize the situation in Lebanon. They want to bring in more reactionary elements to balance Syria and the Christian fascist militia that’s upheld by Zionist Israel, which is no– just a false front. This is being resentful– resented and rejected by all freedom- and peace-loving people.

Vietnam has reaffirmed its alliance and its willingness to begin its negotiations, its alliance with the USSR and it’s a– its willingness to begin negotiations with Kampuchea on new relations. The foreign ministry statement says the republic– His p– proposals made last Fib– February remain in force. They provide for holding a meeting and for sending without delay in the border area, both are to withdraw their troops kilometers– so many kilometers from the bo– the border, about 80 kilometers. The foreign minister’s statement accuses the regime of acting in the interest of the pe– policies pursued by the reactionary regime of nationalists that are now in full in power in what should rightfully be called Kampuchea, is formerly known as Cambodia.

President Carlos Perez of Venezuela has accused the Somozan fascist regime of pursuing a policy of genocide in Nicaragua, and has condemned USA for its assistance. Interesting enough that the president of Venezuela, who will be visiting our own beloved Republic of Guyana, under the leadership of the vanguard PNC and our Prime Minister [Forbes] Burnham, very shortly. He has not yet stated, nor has the Parliament stated, what their decisions may have been in reference to this disputed territory on the border. Interviewed by Newsweek magazine, President (pause) Perez of Venezuela said his proposal at the United Nations (unintelligible word) in to the situation in Nic– Nicaragua, and utterly destroy the Somoza regime. He accused the US of supporting dictator Somoza fully. Somozan soldiers have killed more that 20,000 leading citizens, and hundreds of thousands of people have left Nicaragua, said the president of Venezuela. This is a move– a– a striking move to the left, as president of Venezuela, just ten– uh, ten mile[s] east of us, President Perez spoke sharply, critical of US policies in support of the dictatorship of Nicaragua and Somoza, that was put in power by USA Marines when they invaded against the will of the people of Nicaragua some 44 years ago in 1933. Forty-five years now.

An annual conference of the British Labor Party has opened. They have drafted uh, resolutions submitted to the country’s criticized the government’s economic and social policies, they are against unemployment, inflation, and the growing cost of living. There are more than– (Pause) There are more than three and a half million people jobless in England. Representatives of the various labor organizations intend to stand up against the government’s policies for restraining wage increases, because the cost of living is growing much faster. A resolution urged a reduction of Britain’s cost of living. The Labor Party Prime Minister says he may have to resign. The polls show that Margaret Thatcher, racist who will remove all blacks, Indians, Asians from England, will be his successor.

The chairman of– (Pause) The chairman of the uh, Communist Party USSR and Prime Minister of Ethiopia [Feleke Gedle Giorgis] have spoken highly of the relations and friendship and cooperation between Ethiopia and the Soviet Union.

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Side 2

Spanish lesson among members of the Jonestown community, led by Don Jackson. Low key. Teacher asks for volunteers. “This is not a test where you’ll get a grade, and all that, you know. It’s not that kind of school anyway. This is just an evaluation so we can see where you’re see at, see what practice you need, so we can try to formulate some exercises for you to practice to help bring you up.”

They practice days of the weeks, numbers, and a few conversational exchanges, like asking each other’s names, whether they speak Spanish, and where they live.

Among the speakers are Ron Sines, Lucioes Bryant, and Lovie Jean Lucas.

Tape originally posted February 2016