Serial 1552-2

[Editor’s note: This FD-302 interview with Harold Cordell appears two different places, as part 2 of Serial 1552 and as part 13 of Serial 1681, the FBI’s 387-page report of January 12, 1979. While each version of the interview had unique deletions – designated by blue type – in neither interview was the subject identified. The deleted information which is known to the editor is indicated by red type.]

FD-302

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Date of transcription 12/29/78

[Name deleted] [Harold Cordell] was met at Pan American Airlines, Hangar 17, John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFKIA) by SA [name deleted], Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and SA [name deleted], United States (US) Secret Service. [Cordell] was advised of the identities of the interviewers and the nature of the inquiry. [Cordell] then furnished the following information:

[Cordell] first heard of Rev. Jim Jones in 1955, [words deleted] [Partial release in Serial 1681-13: years old and was graduating from High School] in Indianapolis, Indiana. [Several words deleted], who died at Jonestown, Guyana, and a grandmother, who died of natural causes in Indianapolis several years ago, had joined Jones’ Church and encouraged [Cordell] to visit the Church. [Cordell] began attending services and shortly thereafter he joined the Church, which [Cordell] recalls being known as the People’s Temple Full Gospel Church-Interdenominational. [Cordell] was attracted to the Church and its pastor, Jones, because it espoused strong Bible teachings and practical Christianity such as helping the poor, visiting the sick and following the actions of the Apostles.

[Cordell] was an active member of the Peoples Temple (PT) during this period from the mid-1950’s into the early 1960’s, while the Church was still in Indianapolis and one of his principal duties for the Church was in the position of [several works deleted]. At this time, the Youth Group was not engaged in any physical training, but merely participated in Bible classes, special services and held occasional parties.

In approximately 1952, at a time when [Cordell]’s interest in the PT was waning, Jones announced that he received a prophecy of nuclear war and destruction of the Northern Hemisphere and was therefore moving the Church to Brazil. According to [Cordell], Jones had read an article in Esquire Magazine, which listed Brazil as one of a number of areas where people have the best chance of survival in the event of nuclear warfare. Accompanying Jones to Brazil was Jack

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Beam, his wife Rheaviana Beam and their daughter, Joyce. The elder Beams died in Jonestown, while Joyce, who was in Venezuela during the mass deaths, is currently in the United States (US).

Approximately one year elapsed before Jones and the Beams returned to Indianapolis from Brazil. At this time, [Cordell] resumed active membership in the Church. Shortly thereafter in 1963, Jones moves the Church to Ukiah, California, a town which was also mentioned in the Esquire article as safe from nuclear warfare. Within two or three weeks, [Cordell] was among the 50 to 60 persons who followed Jones to Ukiah. Other members arrived later. [Cordell]’s reason for moving to California was because [Partial release in 1552-2: his wife, [name deleted], whom he had met and married in the Church] [name deleted] was a devout follower of Jones and desired to go. [Release in 1681-13: Richard Cordell] who was also a Church member, had preceded him to California by about three weeks, and assisted [Cordell] in resettling. [Richard Cordell] was a Church member for approximately 18 to 20 years, but had left the Church in mid 1977, after having become disillusioned with Jones.

After the PT had resettled in Ukiah, [Cordell] began to notice that Jones and the Church were gradually changing. Jones’ teachings became more political. Jones placed the blame for the ills of the world on the rich, the ruling class, the President of the US and especially in later years, on President Nixon to the extent that Jones encouraged support be given to any of Nixon’s political opponents.

At Church meetings, Jones became increasingly intolerant of opposing viewpoints. Eventually those who dissented or attempted to argue a point were subjected to public humiliation by Jones or his assistants; in particular, Richard Trapp [Tropp] and Edith Roller, both former college professors who were capable debaters. Both of these individuals died at Jonestown.

The complexion of the Youth Group also changed. In California, the position of Youth Leader was held by Mike Cartmell, who was married to Jones’ adopted daughter, Suzanne. The Youth Group now engaged in physical training,

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including athletic activities, hikes, night hikes, and military type training. [Cordell] suspected that the training was leading to self-defense and weapons instruction, but was unaware of this actually occurring. Cartmell and his wife, Suzanne both quit the Church prior to its move to Jonestown, over a conflict with Jones, who attributed their leaving the Church to their desire to live “high on the hog.”

[Cordell]’s personal life also underwent strain during the years that the PT was situated in Ukiah. He and his wife were growing increasingly incompatible. During 1974 to 1975, in addition to his full-time employment, [Cordell] worked [2 lines deleted]. The strain caused by the amount of time spent away from his wife and [Cordell]’s children, in addition to the economic hardship of tithing 25% of his gross salary as required by the Church, finally resulted in a 1975 divorce for [Cordell].

In 1976, the Church moved from Ukiah to San Francisco. Jones’ reason for the move was to escape the racist attacks of the local citizens of Ukiah. [Cordell] advised that there was, in fact, a growing animosity in Ukiah toward the large influx of blacks brought into the community by the PT.

After the move to San Francisco, Jones grew even more dictatorial in his running of the Church. [Cordell] was a member of the Planning Commission of the Church. This group which consisted of longtime Church members, acted as a Board of Directors and dealt in Church decisions and policy. The Planning Commission was increased by Jones to approximately 100 members, but were in effect a rubber stamp, since Jones held veto power over their decisions.

Jones’ increasingly authoritarian role in the Church was reflected in his more stringent pronouncements. Physical abuse in the form of spankings with paddles or belts and boxing matches in which an experienced athlete would fight the person to be punished. This physical abuse took place at membership meetings which were compulsory and open only to card-carrying Church members.

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Jones began to threaten members not to leave the Church. At first he cautioned those who wished to leave, to make sure they settled more than 500 miles from the Church, but he amended this rule, threatening members not to leave the Church at all. Those who left the Church were rumored to be under surveillance by members who were specially trained. This select group which was not known to [Cordell] by any name, was composed principally of women and included Patty Cartmell, mother of Mike Cartmell and believed deceased at Jonestown; Carolyn Layton, divorced wife of Larry Layton and believed dead at Jonestown; Jack Beam and possibly Paula Adams, who is still in Georgetown, Guyana. The membership of the PT did not discuss the activities of this group.

When Jones announced his desire to move the Church to Jonestown in Guyana, [Cordell] had grave reservations. Jones gave many reasons for the move, including the chance to lead a simple agrarian life, free from harassment, especially for black members, and the opportunity to escape the fear of nuclear warfare. [Cordell] was among those who voted against the move, but Jones prevailed and two teams were sent to Guyana, one to Georgetown and the other to the interior, where they would set up the grounds for Jonestown. Church members began moving to Jonestown in 1977 and [Loretta Cordell] [Harold Cordell]’s former wife and children moved there in the Fall of that year.

Because he wished to be near his children, [Cordell] overcame his reluctance to leave the US and in January, 1978, he arrived in Jonestown. He was extremely disappointed in the settlement, but was told within his first week there that the road to Jonestown led in but did not leave out and that he could only leave when dead. Shortly afterward he saw a member beaten for attempting to leave or planning to leave, both proscribed activities. [Cordell] observed similar meetings frequently. He described the atmosphere as that of a concentration camp with armed guards or security men, as they were known, preventing escape, although their stated purpose was to protect the camp from outside aggressors. In addition to beatings, those attempting to escape or other offenders were sometimes for several days being placed in “the box”, a four foot by eight foot by seven foot cubicle placed partially underground. This punishment of “total sensory deprivation” was followed by counseling.

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At the settlement Jones was like a king and was always surrounded by two or three security men with others on the periphery. The security men were armed with either rifles, shotguns, or handguns. Jones himself carried a handgun which was either a .38 caliber or a .357 Magnum.

Jones talked frequently about dying and seemed to be obsessed with this topic. On one occasion, Jones held a long meeting in which he stated that things were hopeless and the members of the PT had no choice but to take their own lives. At this point, a flavored water drink was brought out and everybody drank it. Many thought the drink was poison until after they had drunk it. [Cordell] advised that this activity is best described as a suicide drill.

On other occasions, Jones announced alerts on the camp public address system. All the members would then hasten to the pavilion where Jones would announce that the settlement was faced with some specific emergency situation of a threatening nature. Attendance was taken at these meetings, which were called “White night” or “Alphas” and security men with weapons were positioned throughout the crowd. Jones would then elaborate on the nature of the threat or emergency and the remedies to be taken.

On occasion, visitors or government officials would arrive at Jonestown. These visitors were handled by a special group, who were supposedly trained for it. The group consisted of Mike Prokes, Tim Carter, Lee Ingram, Dick Tropp, Harriet Tropp, Carolyn Layton, Marie [Maria] Katsaris and Johnny Jones.

During the visit of US Congressman Leo Ryan, the settlement members were aware of his coming approximately five days in advance when they were told of it at a nightly meeting. Jones described Ryan as a racist, a troublemaker and one who was known to be on the side of oppression of poor people.

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Specific instructions were given regarding Ryan’s group. Members were to stay away unless specifically instructed to speak. Members were permitted to answer if questioned, but were warned to be positive in their remarks about Jonestown, since their lives and the lives of their children were hanging on the results.

Once, in an agitated state, Jones made the comment “Somebody ought to shoot Ryan.” Again one or two days before Ryan’s arrival, Jones said that his efforts to thwart Ryan’s visit failed and that he was coming, but perhaps his plane would fall from the sky.

When Ryan arrived, he was shown around the camp and on the first day was actually given a programmed tour and presentation. That night, Ryan, his assistant [Jackie Speier] and the two attorneys, Mark Lane and Charles Gary [Garry] slept in Jonestown.

On the morning of November 18, 1978, [Cordell] met with his friends, [names deleted; according to the participants, the families who met were the Bogues, the Parks and the Simons]. They had previously talked to each other of attempting to leave Jonestown, but at this point they seriously decided to leave. They all felt that something bad would happen because of Jones’ frequent references to Ryan. They weighed and then dismissed the possibility of traveling through the jungle to get help. Finally, two of the Bogue children approached them and said that the Parks family had told Ryan they wish to leave Jonestown. [Several words deleted] then went to the pavilion and told Ryan that they also wished to leave. Ryan and Richard Dwyer advised them that they would be afforded protection and that they would leave with the Ryan party. [Cordell] was very skeptical when he heard that Larry Layton was among those who wanted to leave.

Ryan was originally to remain in Jonestown until all those wishing to leave were boarded on the planes and leaving, but a knife attack by Don Sly on Ryan caused the congressman to depart earlier. [Cordell] believed that Jones ordered the knife attack to get Ryan out of camp so he could be killed at the airport at Port Kaituma.

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[Cordell] and the other “defectors”, as those wishing to leave were called by Jones and the other members, were taken in a dump truck driven by Eddy [Eddie] Crenshaw to the Port Kaituma Airport. After dropping the people off at the planes, the dump truck went to the end of the runway, where it turned around facing the planes and stopped. As he was boarding [Release in 1681-13: the larger plane, the De Havilland, [Cordell]] noticed a tractor-trailer pulling up next to the dump truck at the end of the airport.

After boarding the plane, [Cordell] [Release in 1681-13: was sitting] in his seat when he heard the tractor-trailer approaching quickly. Looking out the window, [Cordell] observed the tractor-trailer pull abreast of the plane on the left side, approximately 60 feet away. He then saw three armed men taking aim from the tractor-trailer. [Cordell] knew the three men as Tom Kice, who was carrying an automatic pistol, possibly a .45 caliber; Albert Touchette, who was armed with a rifle; and Joseph Wilson, who had a shotgun. He called for everyone on board to duck down. After the shooting commenced, [Cordell] glanced out the window and some of these three individuals firing. [Cordell] estimated that the shooting lasted about two minutes, after which the tractor-trailer drove around to the right side of the plane. The shooting resumed on the right side for approximately two additional minutes. When the shooting stopped, [Cordell] heard the tractor-trailer pulling away and when he looked out the pilot’s window, he saw it heading back into the jungle towards Jonestown.

[Cordell] then helped the others to disembark from the plane. He told the survivors to go into the bush, since he was sure that the attackers would return. He went into the bush with the children and they spent the night near the airport at Port Kaituma. The next day they were discovered by Guyanese officials.

[Cordell] had no knowledge of any written or oral oaths made by members of the PT.

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[Cordell] identified the following individuals as armed bodyguards of Jones:

Tim Jones “Day” Also known as (AKA) Tim Tupper Jones
Jimmy Jones
Lou [Lew] Jones
Joe Wilson
Ronnie James

[Cordell] stated that Steven [Stephan] Jones was possibly one of the bodyguards, but he has never seen him with a weapon.

[Cordell] identified the following individuals as members of the PT Security Force:

Steve Jones
Tim Jones “Day” akaTim Tupper Jones
Robert Kice
Ronnie James
Chris Cordell
Cleveland Newell
Gary Johnson a.k.a. “Poncho”
Joe Wilson
Al Tschetter
Lou Jones (Shift Supervisor)
Doug Sanders (in times of crisis)
Sebastian McMurray (part-time)
Teddy McMurray (part-time)
Walter Williams (possibly security)
Al Simon (part-time or time of crisis)
Tinetra Fani [Fain]
Don Fitch, a.k.a. “Doc” (possibly security)
Eugene Smith (in time of crisis)
Tim Jones “Night”
Jimmy Jones, Jr. (Shift Supervisor)
Eddy Crenshaw (reserve)
Johnny Cobb Jones (Shift Supervisor)
Johnny Brown Jones (Security Coordinator)
Jim McElvane
Billy Oliver
Bruce Oliver

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Lee Ingram (Security Advisor)
Calvin Douglas (Captain of security)
Bonnie Simon
Paul McCann
Marie Rankin aka Duckett (possibly security)
Burrell Wilson (possibly reserve security)
Mike Touchette (part-time)
Albert Touchette (part-time)
Larry Layton (in time of crisis)

[Cordell] never heard of the term angels.

[Cordell] advised that he had been a member of the Planning Commission in California, but he stated that it was disbanded when the move to Guyana was effected. When it existed, it consisted of approximately 100 people. He advised however that there was an inner core of persons close to Jones who assisted him in planning and decision-making. These individuals are:

Terry Buford
Marie Katsaris
Carolyn Layton
Patricia Cartmell
Karen Layton
Jack Beam
Johnny Jones
Lee Ingram
Gene Chaikin
Harriet Tropp

The only indication which [Cordell] has of influence peddling is that Paula Adams was living in Georgetown with a Guyanese official in order to secure favorable treatment in things relating to the PT. While in California, Jones had befriended many politicians, including Mayor [George] Moscone of San Francisco; Harvey Milk, another San Francisco elected official, Governor Gerry [Jerry] Brown of California, the District Attorney of San Francisco, and Mayor [Tom] Bradley of Los Angeles. Some of these officials visited the PT Church in San Francisco or Los Angeles.

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Another public official who was a close friend of Jones was Lieutenant Governor Dimalley [Mervyn Dymally] of California who visited Jonestown twice and praised it.

[Cordell] knew of no fugitives or persons who have committed crimes for which they are not charged, as being members of the PT.

[Cordell] advised that an individual named Timofayev [Feodor Timofeyev] who was an official of the Russian Embassy in Guyana, visited the settlement at Jonestown. Jones later said that he invited the Russian official in order to ask him if the Soviet government would provide an alternative place to relocate in case the PT required this assistance.

[Cordell] had no specific knowledge of the method whereby weapons were shipped to Jonestown, nor did he know of any cache of weapons, although Jones boasted of having a large store of weapons.

[Cordell] stated that some of those at Jonestown engaged in firearms training in the jungle, but he did not know how extensive this training was. He never heard it weapons training while the Church was located in California.

[Cordell] advised that if the PT or Jones were attacked verbally, that the plan called for maintaining a defensive posture. In the event of physical attack, the ultimate defense was mass suicide rather than being overrun.

[Cordell] possessed no knowledge of any officials in any government or international body being the targets for murder by anyone from the PT.

[Cordell] had no knowledge of any relocation plans in the event of mass suicide, but he stated that in the event that the Church was attacked, Jones had said there would always be someone to avenge the Catholic Church against defectors, traitors and the like.

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[Cordell] had no specific knowledge of preparation for the assassination of Congressman Ryan, but he believes that these individuals would not have acted without authorization from Jones.

[Cordell] stated that if an assassination plot existed, the persons who would estimate as most likely to carry out are:

Steve Jones
Tim Jones “Day” a.k.a. Tim Tupper
Lou Jones
Jimmy Jones, Jr.
Lee Ingram
Tim Carter
Mike Brooks [Prokes]
Calvin Douglas
Sandra Bradshaw
Jean Brown
Leona Collier

[Cordell] had no knowledge of PT radio or business conducted or codes used on the radio. He heard that codes were used on the radio and that it was used frequently. Among those who used the radio were:

Tim Carter
Lee Ingram
Marie Katsaris
Terry Buford
Carolyn Layton
Harriet Tropp

[Cordell] had no specific knowledge of a hit list, but he alluded to a vague listing of enemies who would pay for wronging the PT.

In addition to living with a Guyanese official to obtain favorable treatment for the Church, Paula Adams was also a sexual partner of Jones, according to boasting by Jones which was overheard by [Cordell].

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[Cordell] had no knowledge of a primitive nuclear device or bomb at Jonestown, but he did hear rumors that Don Fitch a.k.a. “Doc” was building some sort of cannon or mortar to be used in the defense of the settlement.

[Cordell] advised that Hut C-14 was the cottage where security man and their families lived. There was a cabinet in this cottage whether weapons were kept.

[Cordell] advised that Doctor Lawrence Schact [Laurence Schacht] was in charge of medical care at Jonestown. Schact had attended medical school in Mexico and finished in California. He was in the process of serving his internship when he went to Jonestown and therefore did not receive his license to practice medicine from the State of California. Schact was not acknowledged as a Medical Doctor by Guyanese authorities. The following individual[s] were named by [Cordell] as associates of Doctor Schact:

Joyce Parks – Nurse Practitioner
Christine Young – Registered Nurse
Joyce Rozynko – Registered Nurse
Annie Moore – Registered Nurse
Sharon Cobb – Pediatric Nurse Practitioner
Dale Parks – Inhalation Therapist
Lois Ponts – Registered Nurse

Descriptive information, position in the PT, and current whereabouts of the following individuals was provided by [Cordell]:

1. Name Tim Jones “Night”
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 21-22 years
Height 5’8″
Weight 140 pounds
Hair Black
Position Security Man
Whereabouts Unknown

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2. Name Jimmy Jones, Jr.
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 18 years
Height 6’5”
Weight 160
Hair Black, short afro
Build Thin
Position Security Shift Supervisor
Whereabouts In US

3. Name Eddy [Eddie] Crenshaw
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 30
Height 5’10”-5’11”
Weight 200 pounds
Hair Black
Position Truck driver; part-time security man
Whereabouts Unknown

4. Name Herbert Newell
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 23-24 years
Height 6’
Weight 150-160 pounds
Hair Black
Position Crew of trailer [trawler] Cudjoe
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana

5. Name Johnny Cobb Jones
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 19
Height 5’10”
Weight 160 pounds
Hair Black
Position Security Shift Supervisor
Whereabouts Possibly in US

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6. Name Johnny Brown Jones
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 30-32 years
Height 5’10”
Weight 150 pounds
Hair Black
Position Security Coordinator
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown

7. Name Mark Cordell
Sex Male
Race White
Age 20-21 years
Height 5’9″
Weight 160 pounds
Hair Light blond
Position Worked in kitchen
Whereabouts US
Miscellaneous Adopted son of Richard Cordell and nephew of Harold Cordell

8. Name Jim McElvane
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 40
Height 6’4”-6’5”
Weight 210-220 pounds
Hair Black
Position Security Man
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown
Miscellaneous Head of security for PT in USA, arrived a few days before Ryan party

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9. Name Billy Oliver
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 23-24 years
Height 6’1”-6’2”
Weight 185 pounds
Hair Black, short afro
Position Security Man
Whereabouts Possibly deceased in Jonestown

10. Name Steve [Stephan] Jones
Sex Male
Race White
Age 20 years
Height 6’6″
Weight 180 pounds
Hair Dark brown, long
Position Security Man
Whereabouts Police custody in Georgetown, Guyana

11. Name Tim Tupper Jones “Day”
Sex Male
Race White
Age 20 years
Height 6’4”
Weight 175-180
Hair Blond, long
Position Security Man
Whereabouts Possibly in US
Miscellaneous Wore moustache

12. Name Lee Ingram
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 35 years
Height 6’1″

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Weight 180 pounds
Hair Black
Miscellaneous Wore moustache
Position Security
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana
Additional Was a trusted aide of Jones

13. Name Chris O’Neal
Sex Male
Race White
Age 18-19 years
Height 5’9″-5’10”
Weight 150 pounds
Hair Dark blond
Miscellaneous Epileptic
Position Field worker
Whereabouts Returned with [deleted name]

14. Name Calvin Douglas
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 21-22 years
Height 6’
Weight 170-175
Hair Black
Position Captain of security
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana

15. Name Cleveland Newell
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 25-26 years
Height 6’
Weight 170 pounds
Hair Black
Position Security Man
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana, or US

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16. Name Bonnie Simon
Sex Female
Race White
Age 24-25 years
Height 5’3″
Weight 120 pounds
Hair Blond
Position Security woman
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown

17. Name Paul McCann
Sex Male
Race White
Age 30 years
Height 6’3″
Weight 170 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Position Wood crew; possible reserve security man
Whereabouts Unknown

18. Name Pauline Groot
Sex Female
Race White
Age 28-29 years
Height 5’4″
Weight 110 pounds
Hair Light brown
Position Chemical analysis of plants
Whereabouts Presumed dead in Jonestown

19. Name Tom Grubbs
Sex Male
Race White
Age 35-40 years
Height 5’11”
Weight 160 pounds
Hair Light brown

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Position School principal
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown

20. Name Marie Rankin aka Duckett
Sex Female
Race Negro
Age 25-30 years
Height 6 foot
Weight 150 pounds
Hair Black
Position Teacher; possibly security woman
Whereabouts Unknown

21. Name Terri Buford
Sex Female
Race White
Age 25 years
Height 5’7″
Weight 110 pounds
Hair Light brown
Position Advisor to Jones
Whereabouts US

22. Name Jean Brown
Sex Female
Race White
Age 31-32 years
Height 5’1″
Weight 130 pounds
Hair Blond
Position Administrative Clerk in San Francisco Temple
Whereabouts San Francisco, California

23. Name Corinee Kice aka Rennie
Sex Female
Race Negro
Age 35-40 years
Height 5’7”-5’8″
Weight 140

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Hair Black
Miscellaneous Wife of Bob Kice
Position Worker in medical bond (supply room)
Whereabouts Unknown
Additional Job entailed handling drugs

24. Name Laura Johnson [Johnston]
Sex Female
Race White
Age 30 years
Height 5’6”-5’7”
Weight 120 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Position School teacher; former supervisor of field workers
Whereabouts US

25. Name Vera Young
Sex Female
Race Negro
Age 30 years
Height 5’5″
Weight 130 pounds
Hair Black
Position Part-time secretary in San Francisco Temple
Whereabouts San Francisco, California
Additional Was never seen in Jonestown

26. Name June Crym
Sex Female
Race White
Age 30-35 years
Height 5’2″
Weight 140 pounds
Hair Black
Position Part-time legal secretary in San Francisco Temple
Whereabouts San Francisco, California
Additional Visited Jonestown, for one week

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27. Name Mike Prokes
Sex Male
Race White
Age 30 years
Height 5’10”-5’11”
Weight 150-155
Hair Brown
Position Public relations and radio traffic
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana

28. Name Tim Carter
Sex Male
Race White
Age 30 years
Height 5’9″-5’10”
Weight 155-160
Hair Light brown
Position Public relations at Jonestown
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana

29. Name Sandra Ingram aka Bradshaw
Sex Female
Race White
Age 25-30 years
Height 5’2″
Weight 120 pounds
Hair Blond
Position Administrator of Church in San Francisco
Whereabouts San Francisco, California
Additional Greatly trusted by Jones

30. Name Judy Flowers
Sex Female
Race Negro
Age 30-35 years
Height 5’6″
Weight 140 pounds
Hair Black

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Position Possible money raising in San Francisco
Whereabouts San Francisco, California
Additional Was never in Jonestown, sister of Leona Collier

31. Name Jim Randolph
Sex Male
Race White
Age 35-40 years
Height 5’8″
Weight 145 pounds
Hair Light brown
Position Worked in San Francisco organizing the shipping of materials between San Francisco and Guyana
Whereabouts San Francisco
Additional Never saw in Jonestown

31a. Name Harriet Randolph
Sex Female
Race White
Height 5’4″
Weight 120 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Position School teacher
Whereabouts Deceased at Jonestown
Additional Close advisor to Jones

32. Name Leona Collier
Sex Female
Race Negro
Age 45-50
Height 5’1″
Weight 150 pounds
Hair Black
Position Money raising in San Francisco
Whereabouts San Francisco, California

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33. Name Dale Parks
Sex Male
Race White
Age 35 years
Height 5’10”-5’11”
Weight 160-170 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Position Inhalation therapist
Whereabouts [Partial release in Serial 1681-13: Arrived with [Cordell]]

34. Name Burrell Wilson
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 20 years
Height 5’11”-6’
Weight 160 pounds
Hair Black
Position Wood crew; possible reserve security man
Whereabouts Possibly in Georgetown, Guyana

35. Name Claire Janaro
Sex Female
Race White
Age 45 years
Height 5’4″
Weight 240 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Build Heavy
Position Operated home in Redwood Valley, California
Whereabouts California
Additional Was never in Jonestown

36. Name Richard Janaro
Sex Male
Race White
Age 45-50
Height 6’

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Weight 170 pounds
Hair Dark brown, graying
Position Worked in Georgetown purchasing supplies
Whereabouts Last known on ship Albatross bound for Barbados
Additional Would come to Jonestown to visit his children

37. Name Bonnie Beck
Sex Female
Race White
Age 30-32 years
Height 5’1″
Weight 160-170 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Position Worked in home in Redwood Valley, California
Whereabouts Redwood Valley, California
Additional Never in Jonestown

38. Name Marie [Maria] Katsaris
Sex Female
Race White
Age 25 years
Height 5’10”
Weight 125-130 pounds
Hair Dark brown – long
Position Handled financial matters
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown
Additional Was Jones’ mistress

39. Name Paula Adams
Sex Female
Race White
Age 35 years
Height 5’5”-5’5”
Weight 120 pounds
Hair Blond
Position Public relations in Georgetown
Whereabouts Unknown
Additional Rarely visited Jonestown; lived with Guyanese official

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40. Name Tish Leroy
Sex Female
Race White
Age 45 years
Height 5’6″
Weight 140
Hair Gray hair
Position Church accountant [Partial release in Serial 1681-13: [Cordell’s] supervisor]]
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown

41. Name Chuck Biekman [Beikman]
Sex Male
Race White
Age 45 years
Height 5’8″
Weight 200
Position Shoe repairman
Whereabouts In police custody in Jonestown [Georgetown] for Sharon Amos’ murder

42. Name Joyce Touchette
Sex Female
Race White
Age 45-50 years
Height 5’5″
Weight 125 pounds
Hair Light brown
Position Kitchen supervisor
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown

42a. Name Charlie Touchette
Sex Male
Race White
Age 50 years
Height 5’9″
Weight 185 pounds
Hair Gray
Position Supervisor of construction projects
Whereabouts Last known on ship Albatross bound for Barbados

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42b. Name Michelle Touchette
Sex Female
Race White
Age 18 years
Height 5′
Weight 110 pounds
Hair Dark brown, long
Position Laundry worker
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown

42c. Name Mike Touchette
Sex Male
Race White
Age 24-25 years
Height 5’11”
Weight 170-180
Build Muscular
Position Heavy equipment operator, part-time security
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown

43. Name Stanley Clayton
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 25-30 years
Height 6’
Weight 170 pounds
Hair Black
Position Assisted Joyce Touchette in kitchen
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana

44. Name Mary Lee Bogue
Sex Female
Race White
Age 18 years
Height 5′
Weight 140 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Position Cared for children and teacher’s aide
Whereabouts Deceased in Jonestown
Additional Daughter of Edith and Jim Bogue

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45. Name Tom Bogue
Sex Male
Race White
Age 17 years
Height 5’5″-5’6”
Weight 140
Hair Dark brown
Position Was a student
Whereabouts [Partial release in Serial 1681-13: Returned with [Cordell]]
Additional Son of Edith and Jim Bogue

46. Name Tina Bogue
Sex Female
Race White
Age 23 years
Height 5’4″
Weight 135 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Position Crew supervisor in cassava fields
Whereabouts [Partial release in Serial 1681-13: Returned with [Cordell]]
Additional Son [Daughter] of Edith and Jim Bogue

47. Name Odell Rhodes
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 30 years
Height 5’10”
Weight 175 pounds
Hair Black
Position Teacher
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana

48. Name Mike Carter
Sex Male
Race White
Age 22 years
Height 5’4″

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Weight 135-140 pounds
Hair Dark brown
Position Radio operator
Whereabouts Georgetown, Guyana
Additional Brother of Tim Carter

49. Name Vera Ingram
Sex Female
Race Negro
Age 25 years
Height Unknown
Weight Unknown
Hair Unknown
Build Unknown
Position Part-time Church worked in San Francisco
Whereabouts San Francisco, California
Additional Never came to Guyana

[50.] Name Jim Cobb
Sex Male
Race Negro
Age 25-30 years
Height 6’2”-6-3″
Weight 185
Hair Black
Position Quit PT several years ago
Whereabouts Last seen fleeing into the bush during shooting
Additional Was brother of Johhny Cobb Jones. As a “concerned relative” who wanted Jonestown investigated and as traitor who left Church was hated by Jones

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[Cordell] advised that there was a large store of drugs in the medical bond (storeroom) at Jonestown. Jones had stated at a meeting that a wealthy benefactor was donating thousands of dollars worth of drugs. [Cordell] did not believe the drugs were produced by the PT in Guyana.

[Cordell] advised that there were two boats which were operated by the PT; the trawler Cudjoe, which carry supplies between Georgetown and Cape Kaituma and the Albatross, which was rented or leased, which also carried supplies.

[Cordell] advised that PT members in Jonestown manufactured toy dolls at the rear of the pavilion under the supervision of Kay Nelson. These dolls were sold to J.P. Santos, a large store in Georgetown, Guyana.

The following descriptive data regarding [Cordell] was obtained through interview and observation:

[Editor’s note: The balance of page 28 and the entirety of page 29, giving physical description, occupation, education, and relatives of Harold Cordell substantially deleted]

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[Cordell] advised that [he and Edith Bogue] plan to marry after a divorce from [James Bogue].

Upon completion of the interview, [Cordell] was served by SA [name deleted] with a subpoena [Partial release in Serial 1681-13: commanding [Cordell] before the Federal Grand Jury for the Northern District of California, San Francisco, California, on January 10, 1979.]

Originally posted on July 30th, 2020.

Last modified on November 30th, 2020.
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