[Editor’s notes: This transcript is of the first of three contacts between Marceline Jones and Suzanne Jones – the adopted daughter of Marceline and Jim Jones – during Marceline’s trip to the United States in the fall of 1978. The second call was on September 20 call. The third – and likely final – contact occurred about a month later, on October 17, 1978.]
[Minor spelling errors have been retained.]
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Transcript MARCIE AND SUZANNE CALL (relevant parts)
Sept, 5. 1978
(the beginning of the call was routine—-Suzanne stated that she had had contact with her grandparents and that she was thinking about comming down with the, (Oct. 4) or a little later–she asked MJ to pay her way down if she were to come and then she said that she had some questions.
Sue: Well I have bee trying to get hold of Leona [Collier] for quite some tmme and she has’t retourned my call and every time I call she is not there and the last time that I asked for some information she never got back to me. Also I need to know why certain things are being planned for Michal [Michael Cartmell].
MJ: As far as Leona is convered I know that she is spending alot of time at the headquarters – she has been very very busy – she also I think that she was sick for a while– more than that I don’t know. As far as Michael I don’t understand your question.
Sue: Well as far as michael I want to know why certain things are happening to him and why certain things are being planned for him.
MJ: Honestly suzaane I don’t know anything about this.
Sue: Well ask dad. Ask him why he has been called a [Illegible word, like “conspirator”]
– and ask him about a contract.
MJ: I don’t know what you are tlaking about. I really don’t suzanne.
Sue: Becuase If it is true I don’t want to have anything to do with it if it is.
MJ: Sue could you write it too me hunny becuase I don’t understand.
Sue: Mom, I can’t put anything in writing.
MJ: I don’t understand, I will relay your questions to someone else but I certainly don’t know what you are talking about.
Sue: Well ask Dad about counter—blank—you know the rest of it
Also about a contract.
MJ: I understood the last word but I could not pick up the first thing that you said.
Sue: Ask him about the counter and ask him about the contract. as it realted to Michael.
MJ: I don;t know anything about it but I will certainly see what I can find out.
Sue: well it is definately comming from there and I want to know about
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it because I don/t want any part of it,
MJ: Well I don’t know anything here and I am certainly astounded — tha is all I can say.
Sue: I am sure that there are alot of things that you are not aware of. The other things is regarding George Hunters [publisher of Ukiah Daily Journal] wife. Mrs. Goergoe Hunter.
MJ: Yea– ok — look suzanne you go on with your arrangements to come it is really good to talk to you and I would like to clear up these misunderstandings because I think that there are some things that you don’t understand o.
Sue: well the other thing was about Mrs. George Hunter and I want to know why it happened.
MJ: It didn’t really happen.
Sue: ok
MJ: Ok, bye Hunny, please try to plan to come ok.
Sue: think about it and let me know.