Contacts with Fred Wills, Minister of Foreign Affairs (text)

[Editor’s note: Insofar as is possible, the letters and notes of Peoples Temple’s contacts with Fred Wills, Minister of Foreign Affairs have been arranged below in chronological order.]

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GOVERNMENT MINISTERS
Cde. Fred. Wills
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Met with Jim, along with Mike Prokes and Deb T., had an hour conversation, gave questions to Jim to take to J. [Jimmy] Carter. Talked about Carter and Ford, said he was for Carter, lesser of two …positive towards Jim, said if Jim gets post, hopes it is ambassador to Guyana. Gave Jim his speeches, signed, personally. Highly informed of world affairs.

GOVERNMENT MINISTERS
Fred Wills
Oct. 27, 1976

Wills slammed establishment of Transkei by SA [South Africa] as independent state – insult to Third World. In his latest comment Wills hit proposed Geneva Conference on Zimbabwe-(Rhodesia). Said homelands plan and Geneva con. were part of elaborate fraud… objective to deceive international public opinion in this to buy time for Minority racist regimes and vested interest they protect in SA

GOVERNMENT MINISTERS
Cde. Fred Wills
Minister of Foreign Affairs OCT. 7, 1976

Guyana in support of South West Africa People’s Organization – SWAPO – for peaceful settlement of the Namibia question. Namibian political prisoners should be released and South Africa give com to withdraw troops. Wills told U.K. Security coun. Guyana supports this, a potential in recent efforts of Sec of State of US to prevent a blood bath in SA and to enlist in interest of justice, freedom, the possibility of acceptable negotiated solutions. We recognise when dealing with intransigent tyrant, use of sword often induced a climate favourable to negotiation.

Tragedy in SA is racist never yielded an inch without considerable expenditure in blood. We Guyana have no confidence any dialogue with [South African Prime Minister Johannes] Vorster would reach meaningful results. Past experience led us to bitterness. Time running out for peaceful solution to Namibia question. This council must maximise use of little time remains. Minister also indicated Guy. opposition to chop Namibia into fragments-called for independence as a unitary state.

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[Newspaper articles in Guyana press from early 1977]

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[Newspaper articles in Guyana press from early 1977]

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[Editor’s note: Minor spelling errors have been corrected.]

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WILLS: STRONG POINTS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THAT WE ARE IN GUYANA:

1. 1. The migration policy that they are considering right now, which we are an integral part of.
   2. Because bordering countries, Venesuella are trying to increase their boundaries, we are a buffering point in the interior. They would never want to harm Americans.
   3. We are the most progressive element in an underdeveloped area. We symbolize strategy of development in the area.
   4. Agriculture is the country’s strong point and we are the thrust of agricultural efficiency
   5. Multi racialism: we are a microcosm of what it should be like.
   6. Managerial skills: crucial element, as there is a lack of it in the country and out project has proof of it.

**Mark is a first class manager: Has ability to integrate all 3

1. 1. 1. people
      2. property
      3. abstractions

The people of Guyana have needed to emulate this and study it.

**They want to have Jim analyze managerial problems and people, as he understands people and processes. Elliot would give the power to Jim to investigate these processes and report back to him.

7. We are the only community that has been able to put Socialism to work by integrating effectively theology and church.
8. Crime rate: We are the 10th largest group in the country and there is no crime rate here. Because of this they want to study us as to why we have no Anti-social behaviour.
9. All societies need community leaders. Mark has the qualities:
10. He can access local problems and those issues that exceed local situations
11. He has the ability to see things in micro & macro-cosmic details, ascertain fine points and implement them, e.g., the way that we utilise fire stoves rather than gas.
12. He is the type of leader that they need desperately here.
13. What we represent here, meets the ideals of that goal that the country is trying to accomplish. Society due to the leadership of Jim.
14. Every society needs someone like Jim.
15. His example is a constant reminder of what their ideals should be, e.g., When they are in a situation, they try to think how Jim would handle it, thus being able to remedy the matter.
16. He is a generating force for human activity in a positive sense.
17. Has the ability to get things done with people and situations
18. One never has to check up on Jim’s follow through, the job is always assured of being done.
19. Loyalties: it is difficult for leaders to maintain loyalty to the centre and to the group. This requires social engineering which only a gifted person can do. Jim has succeeded in attaining this. Not only does he give his loyalty to the centre and the people, but he also received the loyalty from the centre and the people too.
20. Moral crisis behind all systems is sex: Elliot discussed the exploitation of women. He stated that we had abolished sexism. He said that sex can be used in two ways: procreation & recreation, and ours is a healthy view. The world looks at sex as recreation.
21. He said that the world celebrated death more than birth, but Elliot saw that we celebrated birth.

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FROM: WILLS
WEAKNESSES OF THE ORGANIZATION:

As a result of experiencing what we did in the States and then coming here, it created a certain attitude which we have. They consist of

1. Over suspicion
2. A search for definiteness in external relations
3. Things that we had to do to survive in the States do not necessarily apply here. Methods differ from place to place. We are using the same methods without making allowances for the differences.e.g., Caused unnecessary grief for him and [Ptolemy] Reid both, but at separate instances when they became upset with our approach.
4. We have not organised our reactions to Nick, his boss, and people that work with him. We’re doing things on an ad-hoc basis thus far and this makes for weakness and division. Suggests that we get an overall strategy for Nick
5. Should have a priority on communications – we need the speed of mobility. Presently we are too dependent on the medium of radio & their medical emergency people for transmitting information and transporting emergencies. Suggests that we get a plane or helicopter for accessibility, he’ll help us to find one. Feels that we should consider survival first & then building in respect to cutting off communications.

1. Security is a weakness: We think that it would be difficult for the CIA to infiltrate, but it is not that hard. Feels that we have only one effective communication.
2. Put too much trust into people outside
3. Good at collecting information, but bad at draining inferences.
4. Weak locally in news media. Don’t do enough with the news.
5. Once we have overcome our suspicion of people then we are too trusting.

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[Editor’s note: This page is a duplicate of the undated letter – likely from the fall of 1977 – that appears at BB-1-w on this collection of letters.]

TO: HILL
FROM: MARY RUTH

1. Wills, Burnham, and Hubert Jack will be out of the country between October 21 and November 10.
2. Wills said, “A lot of people are sticking their necks out for you.”
3. Wills said some time ago, that there was a CIA man at Port Kaituma. I did not think to ask him who nor do I think he would tell me, but I will next time I am in his office.
4. Wills said, “No person from anywhere would be denied access to the courts, but the outcome and the courts are under his guidance and that if Grace [Stoen] came down, she could go to court with Jim and John [Victor Stoen] are not leaving Guyana.”
5. Last time we were in his office and we kept trying to bring the question up about what we would do if these things (custody cases) kept going to court, and he kept interrupting me and would hardly listen to one word I said. He still claimed support and said that he wasn’t going to reveal his plan because I have a way of letting word get out.
6. Wills had us picked up in his private car with his official driver when we were at Radio Demerara. He said that he did it because we were from Peoples Temple, not because of looks.
7. [missing]
8. He said that we don’t appreciate what he has done for us.
9. His attitude has not shown that he takes things too seriously or he simply underestimates what they would like to do to us. He sort of acts like, “well, it will all work out in the end.”
10. I don’t think he is working against us because too many people are watching his moves. He keeps telling us that he is all for “you guys” (meaning PT). I think he has a rough idea of what they are in for internationally, but I don’t think he knows yet how to handle this thing and save the Guyana image with the US and stand with us. The loans which were promised by the US have still not come through, therefore, I think Wills is getting a little less enamored with the US.

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Overall, I think Wills is with us because he can’t figure any way out of it.

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[Letterhead of Charles Cameron MacSwan Testimonial Committee]

Minister Fred Wills
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Guyana House Annex
95 Carmichael St.
Georgetown, Guyana
S.A.

Dear Minister Wills:

On behalf of The Charles Cameron McSwan Testimonial Committee, I would like to express our gratitude for the fine work that is being done by Rev. Jim Jones and the People’s Temple.

Working in an area of the city with a high level of poverty, a high crime rate, and a generally depressed and demoralized population, they have begun to turn the neighborhood around. They have begun to convince people through their social and educational programs that they can help themselves.

In a small but significant way The People’s Temple has set up projects whereby people can begin to help each other instead of sitting around waiting for a handout. They have taken youths off the streets and interested then in socially useful work. They have fed hungry children and provided meaningful work for elderly citizens. Best of all they have given people the satisfaction of being able to help build a better life for themselves. In this way they are improving the self image of the entire community.

It is the opinion of this committee that between their work in the city streets here and their farm in your country The People’s Temple are discovering the key to a better society for all.

Sincerely,
/s/ Connie Malone
Connie Malone

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19th September, 1977

Dear Minister Wills:

This is simply to inform you of a couple of matters which should be brought to your attention.

Firstly, a young woman named Maria Katsaris, who lives on our farm, has spoken to her father over radio-telephone to the United States. He is demanding to come down here to see her, and says he is coming down next Monday, Sept. 26, no matter what. Maria has told her father she does not wish to speak to him or see him, and in fact will not receive him. The man, Steven Katsaris, is strongly suspected to have questionable associations with certain agencies, (which is why we are bringing this matter to your attention), and he is a known supporter of the Greek fascist regime.

Maria is engaged to be married to a young doctor up at the project and because of painful experiences with her father when she was a child, she does not wish to see him. Because of Steven Katsaris’s contacts, we feel that it may be to your advantage to know his whereabouts while he is in Guyana.

Carl Blackman, General Manager of the Guyana National Newspapers, is requesting a visit to the Jonestown Agricultural Project. He is, as you know, the stringer for Associated Press, and the major source of information for most of the medias which do not have a stringer based in Guyana. We do not know what Mr. Blackman’s motivation is for this visit and have been advised by our legal counsel to not have anyone from the media visit until after the custody matter is settled. Our legal advisor is concerned that nothing interfere with this case. Your advise on this matter and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Bishop Jones holds you in the highest esteem and pledges his unyielding loyalty to you and the leadership of Guyana. We will not disappoint you.

Sincerely yours,
Deborah Touchette,
Secretary to Bishop Jones

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November 15th, 1976

Fred Wills
MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS:

We met with the minister of the 24th of November, in which we gave the message about the newspaper article, which Bishop Jones gave the message about the newspaper article, which Bishop Jones was responsible for, on Guyana in the U.S. We presented him with a gift from Bishop Jones, and took the opportunity to ask him to aid us in arrangements and as a matter of courtesy give him all the details on the arrival of Bishop Jones and the Lt. Gov. [Mervyn Dymally]. He was very (extremely) receptive and friendly. We net with him again on the twenty-ninth of November. He didn’t have any other information but told us to make an appoint [several missing words due to photocopying error] week we returned from Jonestown. (When we were Meeting with him, Bunny Mann [several missing words] room. It appeared that Minister Wills was trying to halt him at the door. [several missing words walked over him to let him know that he knew us. Minister Wills seemed very supprised, [several missing words acknowledged him to sit down. Ambassador Mann stood over our shoulder and smiling. When we left, Minister Wills told his secretary not to make us wait again, we were very special people to him (P.T.). We bad waited outside the door. He seemed genuinely supprised that we were sitting there and apologized for making us wait, (the impression father has made on him is unmistakable).

PHONE: 61600

Secretary, Audry Zephyr & Mrs. Fason. Bridget Cogwell We always talk to.

Bunny was disgusting. Paula and I (deb.) felt, in fact it appeared Bunny was trying to get in good with Minister Wills by knowing Bishop Jones. Paula told Bunny that you don’t treat a lady with such Personability unless you Mean to acknowledge the relationship (their engagement) and that his actions were wrong, in that she was representing Peoples Temple and not just herself.

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File
Subject: Meeting With Fred Wills
Minister of Foreign Affairs
1 November 24, 1976

When we arrived there was an official (important) [handwritten insertion: “Ambassador to Mexico”] already in office and the [illegible beginning of line] us in promptly while the official waited. [illegible beginning of line] mentioned the luncheon, be said “Oh yes” he already knew about it. [illegible beginning of line] and the Deputy Prime Minister were doing this together and the luncheon [illegible beginning of line] at Sophia. “Paula said one of his comments was, with the Dr. Reid and I behind It, (In so many words) you’ll have no problems).

We told him of our difficulty In getting arrangements made, relating to him the conversation with Proto Call. They had said that since the party was not invited by the Government, we would have to take care of the cost. Minister Wills responded immediately and said he would try to take care of it. He said he would not promise yet, but he would do everything he could. He told us to submit what we needed in letter form that very afternoon and he would take care of it tomorrow. In which case we would come to see him for the results on Friday November twenty-sixth (26th). He promised transportation and said he wanted to handle this whole thing personally. He further stated that from this time on, whenever we write to Ministry of Foreign Affairs, we should address it to him personally. He said this is not usually done, but he will give us this hounor.

He recognised us as progressive people and he wishes to accompany Bishop Jones and the party that tours Jonestown.

He said Guyana recieved a letter personally written by the President of the U.S. and that this was something. We told him that was one of the things Bishop Jones had hoped would change was the foreign policy. He answered that he thought Bishop Jones had said or done something because it was really unusual.

The Prime Minister received a letter from Congressman Willie Brown, stating that Bishop Jones had invited him to accompany him to Guyana on the twenty-eighth (28th), and twenty-ninth (29th) of December, and that he would be coming with [illegible beginning of line] the Prime Minister’s secretary called to re-confirm appt at 10:30 on twenty-ninth (29th), and to tell us that the letter had been received [illegible beginning of line] confirmed. She said the Prime Minister gave this [illegible end of line]

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He was sorry he could not spend more time with them and have the luncheon.

[illegible beginning of line] Willie Brown inform you he was writing a letter direct, and did he confirm that he will still be coming?

[illegible beginning of line] send photos of:

1. Jim Jones
2. Willie Brown
3. Mervyn Dymally
4. Timothy Stoen
5. Mike Prokes
6. Head of Council of Churches in U.S,?

All photos should be passport size and in black and white.

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TELEPHONE CALL TO FRED WILLS ON MARCH 25, 1977 REGARDING DIPLOMATIC CLEARANCE ON THE OFFICE’S NEXT TRIP.

FROM: PAULA ADAMS

1. Paula said that the Bishop will be cowing in a few days. May we proceed on the course you suggested. We’ll gladly pay the expenses for someone of your choice to go to the airport to assist his movement through. If you give us someone to speak to directly we will quit bothering you.
2. Paula said: Winnie Gaskin had suggested we speak to Dr. Reid regarding a diplomatic passport. We did so when we last spoke with him a few days ago. He said he would speak with you regarding this. We apologize for not bringing it up with you to begin with. We were only following her direction.
3. REPLY:

He said that we should contact him directly when I suggested to go through someone he designated so as to not keep bothering bin. He said that he had better take care of this personally. He said that he had someone with him right then and that he couldn’t talk but for us to contact him again when we got more definite Information.

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March, 1977

FRED WILLS
MIN. OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MET BY: Tim, Mike, Deb,

Huey Newton:

Huey requested to come to Guyana for a few months, then on to the U.S. for his trial.

Wills Rep. Why not stay in Cuba? (In so many words, Huey’s already a burden on a Socialist Country. State Dept. wanted to know why Guyana would deny visa to Huey and accept P.T. who identified w/Huey. Wills said we were two separate entities, obviously totally different.

U.S. was glad Guyana turned down Newton.

Mike asked Wills right out, “May I ask who this was?

Wills Rep. “No”, abruptly, He acknowledged he personaly said no to Huey coming. As he told it, it appeared he was the major influence for that decision. He felt when talking to them, and asking for aide, “What do I have to do, come home and torture a few people and put a few political prisoners in jail. He noted before this statement that we have some humanity here. At least we give political persons a trial before we sentence them. And we certainly aren’t torturing anyone.

Met someone in U.S., Washington:

Wills states, “You are being looked into by the lower levels of the State Dept, because of your newspaper. They felt if they cut off our main source of income, then the movement would crumble (They wanted to know where we’re getting funds).

Wills Rep. I brought up subject probing around and he was aware of the contents of the articles. The State Dept questioned why Wills would deny visa to Huey Newton and yet accept P.T. who identified w/Newton.

We told of New York incident. He replyed, there are death threats for Burnham, Reid & Wills. He talked about meeting the Secretary of State. He told how he told them not to tell him about human rights when the U.S. has places like Watts, Detroit, L.A. ect.

Protocol:

I asked Wills about Protocol and told him that (Home Affairs) those he had contacted to meet the Bishop did not show. Wills said he was out of town at the time, but that he would have someone there next time, just call and let him know.

I reminded him of his projection of the possibility a rep. from the PNC could come as protocol. (The very thing we’re trying to avoid, (hostility) I brought on with this suggestion.

His reply was “Listen young lady’’ in so many words he told me I wasn’t diplomatic. Later I appologized for having a call come in at his desk. (Cde. Ruby Harry, Prime Minister’s Sec.) was to call me and I left Wills no. w/home should she call. He said “Shut-up”, then stated his office is our office, my phone is your phone. I’m not sure if the last statement was merely to soften the ”shut-up,” or if he was sincere.

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To: B. Mann file

Wills – (approx date was in first week of Jan of 1978 – those attending were Sharon, Tim, Harry, Ava, Paula, Debbi)

He thinks Mann is CIA, says he is the most unsatisfactory ambassador they have. He likes the high life. Burnham and Wills select the ambassadors. Wills the most junior of the ambassadors under Sonny Ramphal was selected to be Foreign Minister by Burnham, and this caused local problems. Sonny Ramphal did not want Wills to take this post and Ramphal was like an idol to Bonnie Mann. Bonnie Mann tried last year to get rid of Wills. Rashleigh Jackson and Wills went to school together at the same school, and were made ambassadors at the same time.

Wills transferred Mann from Brussels to Washington and Wills admits this was a great mistake.

Mann made a report to Wills about us after talking to Mayor.

Burnham has seen through Mann now also and there will be a meeting on the 16th and “things will happen”.

Mann has complained about Wills and his way of handling PT (when Wills took our part).

Wills said that Mann has a busted lip now and Wills knows that some husband busted him. He seemed surprised when we told him that Mann had arranged street fights in Guyana, Bonnie started off in Jagan’s party and then moved right across in to the PNC (which Wills thought was significant).

Bonnie said he was going to California to look into low-cost housing, but Wills knew he was going to check out PT, said he had instructions to look into housing, but Wills checked on him and found he had checked in as Mr. & Mrs. Mann, took a woman, ditched her and found another woman in California.

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Jagan

Wills – (approx date was in Jan or Feb of 1978 – those attending were Sharon, Tim, Harry, Ava, Paula, Debbi)

– He does have a problem though this election year. Have to fight main enemies first (Jagan).

– He said Jana’s son offered to fight in the Vietnam war

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20th April, 1977

Honourable Vibert Mingo
Minister of Home Affairs
Brickdam, Stabroek
Georgetown

Dear Cde. Mingo:

We wish to keep you informed as to the movement of persons coming by charter. The reason for the delay in the charter flight is that the contract did not arrive today. Joe Lambert told us that it would have to arrive by today (20th April, 1977) in order to make it by Monday (25th April, 1977). We will inform you as to new arrangements. The delay will be only a few days. Thank you for your considerate attention.

Cooperatively yours,
Deborah Touchette
Secretary for Peoples Temple

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[This note to Min. Fred Wills duplicates the note to Min. Mingo above.]

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MINISTER WILLS 2/78 (after we revealed to him what Paula overheard between Perm. Sec. Collins and Bunny Mann about Wills)

– said he talked to Burnham last night about the Bunny Mann/Collins incident, he said that there were still gray areas to clear up with Burnham. He couldn’t get a word in at first with Burnham because Burnham had all the facts. Collins and Bunny had gotten to him first and complain about Wills.

– Bunny has direct access to Burnham.

– Wills has a plan tho to get to Burnham through a woman who once had an affair with Burnham, a Miss Collins. She no longer is having an affair with Burnham but he, Burnham, has a sympathy for her and she has direct access to him

– however Mrs. Collins has total loyalty to Wills and he will tell her to talk to Burnham in his favor. (Strange that Bunny has more access than Wills and was believed at first)

– Wills knows how to have her bring up the subject of Wills to Burnham

– this is the time for Bunny and Collins to be reposted in their positions/Wills said they don’t necessarily (???) want his job but they want to shack up the Foreign Ministry so that Burnham will have his mind off them and (in other words not repost them)

– Wills had a problem with Burnham as Wills couldn’t deny that the facts that Bunny and Collins mentioned were true/ he did spend time alone with [US State Department official Frank] Tumminia through channels and Collins had helped in the arrangements as Tumminia requested to talk to Wills.

– Wills was worried that Burnham would be suspicious of the fact that Wills was talking so long to an American (who could be CIA), he said he couldn’t prove what he talked about, it was about us and a book that they had read in common. He said however the subject of PT didn’t come up with Burnham.

MINISTER WILLS 10/2/78

– Tim Carter wrote up adequate notes on this however I wanted to clarify one point

– the fact that this Human Rights report stated nothing about PT was mentioned to be positive for us because they would have indicated the Stoen matter as a violation of Human Rights if that was considered to be so. However, it was mentioned that PT could have been mentioned as a positive indication of Human Rights in Guyana. The fact that Americans were allowed to immigrate and were supposedly treated fairly (supposedly only because we know what hassles we’ve gone thru). The fact that PT wasn’t mentioned as a positive factor for Human Rights was Wills thought because US is embarrassed about US citizens leaving the US to find a “better” home. it wasn’t negative for Guyana but just a shame Wills said it wasn’t indicated as a Positive.

– Wills also stated that Israel was given a poor rating on the Human Rights ratings.

– Wills said there is no way to keep Marcie’s visit to Washington a secret from Bunny. He’s going to try to think of ways to deal with the fact that Bunny might try to pass up her visit and he’ll think of things that Marcie  can say that will help

– he did state she could mention how Guyana is a great place for the recognition and protection of human rights and the law.

– Wills told us to definitely tell Mingo that the Interpol report about guns is what caused our crates to be held up even though the crates were all checked and okayed before this report came out and yet the report was believed.

– Willis wants us to write Burnham and Reid about the situation with Collins and Bunny talking to him and Tumminia/ however Apollo felt that we should be careful about any mention of Bunny to Burnham. Bunny saw Burnham 3 times recently/ I said well maybe Burnhasm chewed him out so Wills told us that Burnham did chew out Bunny for “fornicating” when he was supposed to be doing official business. Paula said “Well, that may be

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true but each time Bunny has seen Wills, he has come back in good spirits and that is not a good sign.

WE WERE TOLD TO TELL WILLS THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE WHICH WE DID

– JJ is being isolated, shot at, people are working on it to get him

– some of the government people (PNC) are working very closely with the US and we have been told by one (who is friendly to socialism and who is black and not pro-Jagan) that they are destined to replace the old staff. We look at such reports with a jaundiced eye but thought I should pass it on to you

– this person said that others in government will be removed to make the staff more cohesive

(when we told him the above message, Wills didn’t take it too seriously, he said he’s heard such things, but he’s also heard the opposite, he just keeps on working) – I think he didn’t take it seriously as he had just met with Burnham and was told that Burnham would chew out Bunny because Bunny was “fornicating” when he should be working for the government.

Wills conversation 8/2/78 Re Bunny Mann

– he said that he was very concerned that Bunny would talk where Paula would hear his conversations/ he said the facts follow related were true so the info must be true

– he said he thought he had Bunny “covered”

– he said the key positions of power were in our camp (PT), all governments are oligarchic and the oligarchic power (Wills, Burnham, Reid) are pro-PT

– he said Bunny was trying to get his job/ later he said that wasn’t so but Bunny was just trying to shake up Wills job

– he referred to Paula’s work as “your people’s intelligence services”

– Barnwell he said is the Registrar of the Supreme Court and he controls all orders (code name is Rodney for him)

– makes him feel “blue murder” that Paula has to endure Bunny’s use of her body

– Wills knows that Bunny is the source of the rumors that say Wills is sleeping around

– Wills said “The PM must fire him.” Wills said, “Reid has a campaign against Bunny”

– Wills said, “The child must stay.”

– He said that Burnham told Bishop through Mingo that Bishop should back PT (Wills talked to Mingo while we were in the office or pretended to, some of his calls are real because he did call the GAC on our behalf as they told me he did, he did call Kennard about the swimming pools, he did call Davis head of Guysuco [Guyana Sugar Company] and he once did call Mingo because Mingo told us he did, but some may be phony.)

– Wills said there is no way John will leave this country

– Wills refuses to be left alone to fight for socialism in South America (this is grandiose but if Wills feels a little insecure about his job with Burnham listening to Bunny, he may feel it is in his interest to have us give him info about Bunny and other info that could help in his job)

– Wills said he knows where he can retire to (Jonestown)

– If in any case, as we asked what would happen during an appeal, Wills said the situation would be stayed pending an appeal (he didn’t bring this up, we did as we said we wouldn’t allow the child to be taken)

– if nothing is ever served there will be no problem (we mentioned the people that sell out their grandmothers), he said they could serve papers but they’d have to go through a procedure all over again of getting the judge to sign and the registrar asked to stamp it. Wills said he will not allow that to happen though.

– He said Burnham wants Bunny to be brought back home to Guyana (if reposted)

– Bunny’s only friend is McCabe

– Bishop (Judge) is a Rotarian as are Blacken and Stoen

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Minister Wills speculated that Bunny was pulling one by carrying out foreign dollars or gold. (Paula has a strong suspicion he is doing so also suggested that it would be a good idea to check Bunny’s things when he leaves).

– Wills [illegible written word] about Bunny switching from Jagan to PNC and now going right-wing

[paragraph crossed out] – said Hope is locked up in a room and no one can get to him. Wills will get to pick [illegible name] and speak to her/he doesn’t directly want to interfere with this mother (but he did call White, or said he did)

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[Handwritten heading: “Sharon Amos – Various notes on Tim Stoen case”]

WILLS

– he said in the visit before 1/12 that he didn’t think the Oliver sons should turn over the money left to them to their parents, he said they should give it to the church (PT) where it could be of use

1/12

– after the visit he made to Jonestown, he said that Jonestown had total multiracism and no sexism, it had a strong impact on him

1/13

– Wills said that Guyana is taking in Haitian refugees now who want to resettle here and so Guyana will have to settle certain questions not just in regard to us but to them

­– there was a call McAshley made to Wills – in regard to our custom problems. They said two of our women were selling items on the street after taking them out of customs and so this might be one reason why there was a problem on duty-free items, Wills said this was a lie about women selling things

– he said no orders would be served on anyone, he has the authentic orders (to serve orders on Joyce [Touchette] to produce the child) so there is no problem

– says the case may have its low peaks and high peaks but we shouldn’t worry in the last analysis

– the same day he went to see Jonestown he took Judith Hart, ambassador from England on a tour of the Northwest. Paula heard that she gave Guyana 50 million dollars on that day

(the day that Wills said it looked like things were out of control, the day after the hearing, Wills said:)

– in regard to exodus, there would be a legal  answer about this, all could leave but JJ, Joyce and John, but the political answer would be broader and maybe all could leave

– he believed now the Judge was CIA

– the judge was supposed to rescind his own orders

– Wills should have known they would have adjourned early since that was a Saturday court (today) and so they didn’t intend to finish the matter

– they adjourned to discuss whether they could make orders against Joyce T.

– Wills said that Hews [barrister Clarence Hughes] had said that at any stage any irregularity that is not basic in the case can be corrected (he was talking about Luckhoo’s notes)

– the judge grants admission on the affidavit and said that since Grace’s authority to Joyce is withdrawn – doesn’t that bring the matter to an end

– the judge is not rescinding orders

– the judge is playing it both ways according to Wills, not ruling on the arrest orders but the judge doesn’t say the orders are bad so now he could send a marshal to pick him up (JJ), but Wills said he would make sure no orders go out on JJ

(when asked for a plan from Wills to stop things from being out of control he said:)

1. Get Barnwell (the registrar) and get the actual orders for arrest (Barnwell can’t do the arrest orders twice so no-one can serve JJ. He’ll do this this weekend (so we just hope he does it before it’s too late)
2. see Burnham this evening and Burnham can make a decision to throw the Stoens out if he wants to
3. we asked if he would include us in a meeting with Burnham or others he meets with about us, he said he will ask but we couldn’t he included in the meeting tonite he’ll have with Burnham

said he would check into the parameters of PT being able to operate unmolested

– he’ll call in Reid, Hoyt, Jack, Green, Mingo and Wills to discuss the parameters – agreed that our problem in customs is harassment

– he’ll propose that we only be subject to local actions – to municipal law if we become citizens/ it would be like a constitution

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Sharon Amos

[Handwritten marginal note on page: “Find out what Miller said”]

REPORT from Contact with Wills Friday

– he said Tim & Grace came in the night before Hass [Stoen attorney Jeff Haas] did and they were in to see John Blacken (Amer Embassy)

– Tim Stoen told Blacken that he was one of the original people who had come to Guyana with Jim to talk to Dr. Reid

– Stoen said they expect justice to be done, want US representatives there to be sure their interests are protected (During the court hearing) – this infuriated Wills that they didn’t feel Guyanese proceedings represent justice

– Blacken said “we are Americans not Guyanese so we can’t be sure” (in other words these are not American proceedings

– they had comments of custody – said JJ had signed them (not sure of this but something about them signing at a different time than the Stoens

– Wills said that he WILLS had refused to allow McCoy and or Blacken to sit in on the proceedings

– Tim approached a minister (Mingo) and asked if the minister would help him get the child if the court doesn’t help (This also infuriated Wills and he said we don ’t want this bastard here)

– they are staying at the Tower

– they can’t bring up a new case after this one unless they have new facts that’s the law of res judicata (means the matter is already judicated)

– or they could try to get around that by saying some fact that already existed wasn’t presented

– tomorrow (today) according to Luckhoo, the order for J’s arrest will be thrown out, they won’t go into the custody matter today (sat) the custody matter however is what Stoen wants dealt with today also

– Stoen went to the Bal court (quick expedition court) and tried to get the judge there to deal with the matter (he went there but the judge said it was better handled by Judge Bishop as the Bal court judge said he didn’t know enough about the situation and Bishop has been handling it.

– they were going to try to rectify the mistakes of serving the papers wrong (nailing them up on a wall), and prima prima facie evidence in the first place from Grace by changing the order to show cause from JJ to Joyce T. but WILLS said you can’t do that because if you say J has custody you can’t then have Joyce T. be made to deliver the child

– Hess [Haas] came with a California court order and 2 affidavits.

—Hewes [Hughes] was trying to repair the whole case with this change to Joyce T

– the first prima facie evidence was faulty as it depended on an affidavit from Grace Stoen when she was in California saying she was the mother of John and there was no proof of it (just her hearsay statement)

– they will throw out the case procedurally because of the poor evidence and the method of service and not on the basis of substance on the matter, that won’t even be dealt with

– the Stoens could file again theoretically but Wills said he has made the rule that they must leave after this case and can’t come in again to Guyana, their lawyer can come back if he wants but can’t start proceedings without Grace

– there is no assurance he could give if there was to be a case based on substance except that he won’t allow them in

– this does not protect us in g regard to any other children

– Stoen

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MEETING WITH FOREIGN MINISTER

– in contrast to visit with Mingo (who tho not unduly reassuring gives straight answers), Wills does not give such in the way of personal opinions and gives little real substance as to where he is at

– he said indeed Bunny Mann had gone to California to see about the allegations against us. I believe he used the word allegation here. I know later in the meeting he said the cabinet would determine each allegation against us as it came up. He also said on this point that their position was as before – supportive (that was not the word he used), but when he spoke of this feting he looked down and seemed to be evasive.

– if intuition can be trusted at all both Paula [Adams] and I came away with the feeling that at least he was trying to avoid getting into the subject because either something negative was said about us or he was in some way covering something. Since she and I both came away with the same strong feeling I felt it must have some validity.

– he did say don’t worry in the end you will win. Obviously the implication was that the decision would be fixed.

– he went on to itemize some legal points:

1-that he felt at least Grace would have to appear in person here to have the case heard

2-he alluded to something like us pursuing an order which would affirm JJ’s custody, but he pointed out that to get such an order into effect would require JJ coming into town to appear. (I questioned Paula on whether Luckhoo had suggested this and she said she had asked him if there was anything offensive such as this which we could do and he had never suggested this.) I think she should ask him further about this – Luckhoo that is.

3-He also said something which I think is significant which is that he told the judge he better take his time and write a really good opinion on the case since it would set a precedent. By this I think he meant he better be sure he writes a very accurate legal opinion. I think in regard to the points about physical presence and things like whether or not a U.S. attorney can even present such an order in a Guyanese court and some other points like this. Technicalities that they had violated – I interpreted it to mean. (this could be the reason for the 6 week delay – Nov. 18 date ) In this light it would not be interpreted as a bad thing necessarily.

4-How far can a Calif, court order go-jurisdiction-see response below

– Of course from his conversations he makes such statements as Paula is worse than a nagging wife in trying to get information. He tries to change the subject by either a feeble attempt at compensation or some other off handed attempt at being witty. All this is a cover from getting straight information about him. In contrast Mingo never does such superficial things and is always totally businesslike.

– I think Wills is relating to us purely on the basis of the pressure he has seen come in from left groups, etc.

– he also said regarding JJ visiting Dymally and Andrew Young that he could arrange for JJ to go out of the country to the U.S. without having to worry about the orders in Georgetown, but both Paula and I were uneasy about this wondering if the ticket out would be accompanied by a return ticket in or just a convenient way out for them.

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MEETING WITH FRED WILLS (JAMES)

– went well

– he said basically we had been scrutinized and now it was over and we are in// said basically everyone is for us

– said Oscar was well pleased that we had joined locally up there

– all were pleased to see us at rallies and things in town

– responded about the scientists by saying that they are also involved with the same outfit that many journalists have been found to be a part of recently (CIA) Did not seem surprised at this, but did not give credence tho looked intently to see our reactions

– seemed surprised at our problem with the crates, appeared to make a call but said we may have to endure it, but once it is over implied that would be the last of it

– wanted us to submit a brief on the school situation for him

he wants to find that ’’face saving out” we were talking about, but still maintain our view. Wants to be prepared to bring it up at a meeting this week. Mentioned a former problem they had had with some Jehovah Witnesses which is why the problem, but basically appeared to agree with us, but wanted us to prepare all the arguments which we deliver Sat. morning.

– was more reassuring than have ever heard him/ basically said we were in and everybody was pleased – named several who were.

– we mentioned the radios – he seemed to make a phone call tho we are not sure it was real. We will Include more about that in a memo

– said the people in SF can worry but we don’t need to here (similar to Langley who said George and Minnie have something to worry about but we don’t)

– alluded to the border area like Langly did

– got no impression from it that we were in any kind of difficulty, just the opposite. „

– also re: school situation: he said he saw difficulties if our kids were to go into Kaituma school. Said he was for them staying on project. Said the only one who might be giving any difficulty was Hoyt ( he’s a tough one, or words to that effect) but that all others were solidly behind us.

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CONVERSATION WITH WILLS (at his office Fri nite 4:30 PM) continuation

– Re BUNNY MANN

– at the commonwealth meeting Burnham chose Wills

– Wills transferred Bunny from Brussels to Washington and this was a mistake

– Terry Tideman (representative of US), he was saying that Wills was the most brilliant statesman in Latin America

– he said “we made mistakes with Mann from the start”

– Wills did his ambassadorship in Zambia because Burnham thought that place suited Wills temperament, Mann really didn’t have proper exposure as he was sent to Brussels (white nation)

– Mann has poor judgement – he actually thought [George] Wallace was going to win the election in the US

– Mann has been married 3 times, has a funny sex thing

– Mann is a fascist

– in the Panama Canal situation, Reid was in charge and wanted their opinions, Mann started arguing when Wills was there too, (against Panama getting the Canal), Wills said “remember one thing, I’m your boss, you shut up’’

– he said “some live in a myopic world, wine, women and song”

– he said “My dear girl, he’s going to be moved January. Moved to China, he won’t get any women there. He’d need an interpreter. The more I think about it the more I like it. I’ll give him a minimum time to say goodby (in the US) as otherwise that could be a problem. I’ll send him to China and have him there so he can disrupt that society, (then he made a joke “I’d love to get you on a slow boat to China”

– says he has someone in mind to replace Bunny – he decided that long ago, it has something to do with who comes out of China (that sounded like he’d have Mann go to China and the present Ambassador return and come to US?????)

– even John Burke (the US Ambassador) said that Mann is defeating your own efforts

– He said that Mann would probably try to fly to Hong Kong from China because he likes the Western life, night clubs etc.

– he tries to charge a lot of things to the Govt (accounts office) for his trips and high life but the accounts office won’t pass the vouchers for such trips

– Mann tries to charge all his amounts but they subtract it them from his salary and once he didn’t get any salary for 3 mos. but he was sure mad – but he gambles too and that’s how he can get money for a high life

–Mann just tries to sail thru life and doesn’t know what life’s about

– Mann has never had a meaningful relationship with anyone, man or woman, he’s a dilettante – likes a little sex here, a little poker here, he is not contributing anything

– Mann is a fascistic dog – ‘better a zero a than a nero” (is the joke Wills made)

– for every 4 women Mann gives money to, he has one who supports him, he has a Jew heiress, a widow in Maryland that “loves the short guy” – he recycles women

– the Prime Minister won’t rescue Mann, Wills settled it, have patience

– IN REGARD TO AID FROM USSR)

– the Soviets want conditions, Wills can’t accept them or take specific leadership from them

– Jagan is their client (USSR) – he was indoctrinated in pro-Soviet education, in Howard Univ, in Wash, in Chicago

– USSR is security conscious, they have tempered Marxism with Leninism – they don’t want any socialism that they don’t control

– they’d want Soviet advisors and be able to pick leadership

– (when asked “didn’t Cuba make some self-determinations in their own policy tho they get USSR aid”, he said – Cuba fought the USSR back somewhat but they do get 1.2 million a day, Cubans have to pursue a certain line and then besides that get some flexibility

– Castro did get some maneuvering room. Cubans led USSR into Angola

– Castro was jealous that Che gets all the credit and that Che will get credit in the history books so Castro chose Africa in which to make his name.

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[Reverse site of page is likely scratch paper, has handwritten note]

Need to get a tree out of the way

– Miller becoming part of Oscar – confidential exc. for Reid – praise Jack

– Nairaine – that’s what we [illegible word] – know what it’s at – nice guy

& topola [Teekah?] nice guy & Wills is a nice guy but

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WILLS conversation Fri nite

– Castro did a logistic act of genius to send troops to Angola without the CIA knowing it

– strategy of “prior presence” (you get over there and then you have a political or military advantage)

– Castro stopped IN Guyana first

– Castro beat the US tho they were backed by Kissinger

– Andrew Young said Guyana has the highest quality intelligence per capita

– Kissinger told Ford that Wills had a computer brain, Andrew Young said this in a speech in Guyana

– there are only 1 million here

– Kissinger cut off aid to Guyana

– he then related a conversation he once had with Kissinger (that prompted Kissinger to tell Ford that Wills had a computer brain)

– he said Kissinger started by talking about German Philosophy (thinking Wills didn’t know much about it), and Wills discussed this subject, then he chose architecture and Wills discussed this with him

– then Wills (like in a chess game, I think), said he decided it was his time to pick a subject so he picked Africa (Mann, Jackson and Seawar were there at the time)

– Kissinger’s only interest, Wills said, were in the Jews in Israel and if you had nuclear power

– he didn’t know anything about the tribes in Zambese [Zambia] – whether they were matrilineal or patrilineal and Wills told K. that K came out of a patrilineal tribe

– K. said “Which one of our universities were you educated”, Wills said, ”1 was educated in spite of the Western System”

– K. said “you owe the British a lot”, Wills said, “Oh no, they brought me here as slaves???”

– K said he was going to talk to Voyster [South African Prime Minister Johannes Vorster] and try to get a settlement, Wills said, in essence that he didn’t believe that Voyster and Kissinger could come to any agreement of the matter since Voyster had taken a position in the War pro-Hitler, and Kissinger had to (or his family had to) leave Germany to escape the Nazis so there is no way Wills would believe that they could come to an agreement, the only thing they could be in agreement over is that the South Africans aren’t going to get any independence etc.

– Wills said he wants no more masters, US or USSR, he no way wanted to share power with Jagan which is what the USSR Wants

– at present they get 3.3 aid from USSR BUT that he said was mainly because the USSR knows what Guyana gets from US and is giving a token amount

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[Reverse site of page is likely scratch paper, has handwritten note]

8RIJ – Peter Taylor

118 Peter Rose St.

Queenstown

Lives across street from Wills

[illegible call letters]

Marcellus Fielden Singh

264 New Garden St.

Queenstown

(United Force)

Wills says he has gotten reports on our broadcasts – not very interesting except for one very emotional one about John [Stoen].

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Wills 19/1/78

– no cases will be brought against you, Tim admitted that no one threatened to kill him

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MILLS 23/1/78 re Bently Benn and Stoen case

STOEN CASE AND FOREIGN AID

– said he will tell the judge what decision he must make regarding the case and the Calif. press

– said that Calif. press seems to be a problem

– campaign for June 1978 budget

– US does not help USSR and her friends, tho the Carter point of view is pluralistic

– US gives special preference to free enterprise systems like Trinidad and Barbados

– no aid for Mozambique, Uganda, Ethiopia / if they add Guyana to the list not only the removal of 2.5 million but influence to all countries like Canada and Britain

– however, Guyana is in a rather crucial place in South America, could have Venezuelan dissidents training there

– also US could want Guyana as a bridgehead – Stevie Wonder tradition of Guyana

– they are worried in the US that Guyana could be an influence to other South American countries to go socialist

– there is a debate now as to whether Guyana should be given aid and Wills feels that Calif. is the chief area of dissent

– Tim Stoen has more Congressmen than you

– Tim Stoen’s letter has gone public/ Cabinet and in the Ambassador’s conf, for jokes, laughing at Stoen. Arrogant super-chauvanist mentality of men here. They go around joking saying “Sire my wife” – and in the club after the cabinet they were joking about Grace being ’’reluctant but gracious” (Wills even pointed to his young daughter and said you can see who sired this child) (she looks just like Wills)

– said Congressmen should write Washington, lobby in Washington

– said the time frame for the budget is June for allocations

– I said it looked very bad for us if the budget is the consideration, he said ’’Justice is my training”, he’s not like Blackman and Marshall of the US supreme Ct. who use law as a political tactic/ however he said he will use law as a security tactic.

– he said that congressmen should write and say PT is a good thing, and is it is the democratic right of Guyana to have them here, mention the concept of Western liberty (to go where you want to)

– we said that Congressmen that wrote, 6 of then, expressed interest and it wasn’t for a sure they were negative/ he said ’’expressed interest” is diplomatic language and probably means concern

– he said that Guyana could possibly get 500,000,000, something about Inter Amer. Bank/ and then mentioned something, about 62.5 million world bank control

– said that Guyana does remain independent because they took away American businesses, they would have no multi-nationals here

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WILLS Lunch 29/1/78

Came w/ wife, three daughters (one adopted) and an adopted son, who also doubles as his body guard

– he seemed to be half-lit at first as he came in singing etc, but cooled down very much (not to us, just in manner). He didn’t even drink his beer, choosing pepsi later on, and smoked only one cigarette (he smokes alot). He said that being around us had “an effect” on him., implying we were helping him not drink or smoke.

– he started the conversation off by asking me (Thomas [code name for Tim Carter]) if I had told you (Mark) about the letter from Freitas. I told him I had, and he wanted to know your reaction. I told him that since he had said not to worry, we were trusting his word. He said he felt the letter meant two things. One, that they were worried they were going to lose the case, and that is why Freitas waited till now to send the letter. Secondly, he felt they were trying to shift the heat, temporarily, off of you and onto him. He said they only have two avenues to get to you – political and legal – and since they are going to fail in the legal now they will try the political. I asked him if he was worried about it, and he said no. I don’t know if I believe him on this point – he brought the subject up more than once. He said that his first move would be to acknowledge receipt of the letter. He will then wait till after Morgan makes his decision, and then send Freitas a letter saying that California court orders are not upheld in Guyana, that they are not a part [of] the proceedings, and will also say that we are a productive community, that is not getting in trouble, and that we are welcome in Guyana. He said his emotional response is to tell them to get off. He was quite perturbed that they would write to the Foreign Minister and ask him to use his influence to enforce an order. He said “Can you imagine what would happen if I wrote Vance and asked him to do the same thing?” He said it was typical of American arrogance and conceit. He felt that they also might try and make a human rights issue out of the thing – but I really don’t quite understand what he means by this.

He said that when they say in the order that it is in the best interest of John to be with Grace and Tim, he interprets that as meaning that it is best for John to grow up in America, and not Guyana. He said that they Guyana) must make it clear to America that they will not take part in the harassment of our people. He said that they know how he will react, and then they will try to make an issue of it and take it to Burnham, and Burnham will tell them to go “jump in the lake”. He said “What will they try to do next, tell Burnham who should be his ministers?”

– He asked us to keep this confidential, but he said that “this actually happened.” Apparently the CIA approached Wills and the Guyana Government, in writing, and through Bunny Mann, suggesting that they needed a good cash crop to help increase their foreign exchange. The crop they suggested growing – marijuana. Wills said he was outraged. He said he wrote his comments on the letter and passed it on to Burnham. He said then that Bunny Mann was a madman, and he could hardly believe the CIA would be so out front with their dirty work.

– He mentioned that there was hypocrisy in the government at cabinet level (he did not give any names). He did mention one incident, and asked us again to keep it confidential. He said that he made a proposal that every school aged child in Guyana be provided milk every day. He said that something like that, with a socialist, should have been decided in a couple of minutes. Instead, he said three hours of debate ensued, with the thing finally losing. He said one of the arguments was ridiculous – that the US was jealous of Guyana because they were a poor country and provided free medical care, and if Guyana provided free milk for their children it would make the US madder and less likely to give aid. He said that in March there would be a tightening of the socialist screws. He said that we “will like it” in terms of what will be done. He said that now room is made for the opposition and the conservatives, but it won’t be like that in the future. He said that “if there is the election, it will probably be the last one in Guyana’s history.”

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– he mentioned how disturbed he was that the US just granted Pinochet of Chile 80 million dollars – he said “can you imagine?” I mentioned that Russia was giving aid to Iran, and he didn’t like that either. I forget his exact words but he more or less said it was an opportunistic move on Russia’s part.

– he told us of his daughter in England, who he said is more socialist than he is. He said that he was walking down the street with the Queen and other commonwealth heads when he heard from the audience on the sidewalk “her highness is a royal whore” and when he turned to see who it was, it was his daughter!

– he was not to impressed with Venezuela. He said that the civilian head is just a figurehead, and that the military and the oil had the real power, he said the slums around Caracas would make you cry.

– He said that the US will not be able to pressure with aid because they just signed an agreement under a certain trade bill providing Guyana with wheat, oil, flour, and tobacco. This comes as a loan, and is paid off to the US govt in a couple of years time at 8.5% interest. The US Govt buys the products from the manufacturer, and then sells to Guyana on a temporary loan basis. He said because this agreement was already signed, the US will not be able to use that as pressure.

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TIM CARTER’S NOTES FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH WILLS/ THESE HAVE ALL BE [been] RELAYED ON THE RADIO BUT WE KNOW A LOT IS LOST IN TRANSLATION SO WE ARE INCLUDING THESE NOTES

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WILLS CONVERSATION FRIDAY 10 February

He said, in response to question if he had heard anything yet about custody case, that it was good news. He said that Barnwell (Chief Magistrate of the court, and person he is using to work through in this case to get information) had talked to Bishop in response to Wills request. Bishop told Barnwell that “Jim Jones will win the case”. Barnwell explained to Bishop that time was important because Bishop Jones was ill and couldn’t come into town for treatment because of order. Bishop said he was not done writing the case as of yet, and he had pressure from Supreme Court to finish another case.

After we had told Wills about Marcie’s upcoming trip to Washington D.C., that she may meet with Rosalyn Carter, had made many important contacts, etc., Wills brought up the point that the case must be settled before she goes, otherwise it might negate some of what she was trying to do. (So that people can’t be saying she is lobbying solely to get custody matter settled etc). He then called Barnwell back and asked him if he knew how soon Bishop would be handing his decision down. He then told Barnwell that ’’Starting tomorrow I’m going to start a campaign for an early decision. I have my own reasons for doing this, just so you know.” In my opinion this tells two things: a) Wills up to this point hasn’t been doing a thing to get a quick settlement in the matter b) he is convinced that Marcie’s trip will be effective In helping Guyana. The term he used In describing the situation if case was not settled was it would be ’’fate accompli” – legalese, I think. All of this is put more into perspective with the fact that he called us in to show us a report that he said was confidential, written by Carter, Mondale, and Jody Powell, and sent to Congress and then on to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He explained that they have a member of the Committee compromised (a homosexual) and that they get information from him. He said they had four lines or Intelligence contacts into the U.S., and he felt this one – which was his – was the best one. The report was a “Human Rights” in Guyana essay. Wills said that before any country can get U.S. Foreign aid, one of these reports is drafted. They are strictly confidential, and not made public. The report itself was favourable to Guyana. He said the reason he showed it to us is to point out that the U.S. in secret doesn’t consider the issue with Peoples Temple to be severe enough to mention in their report as one of the criteria for foreign aid. He said that he knows that Tumminia’s Human Rights file on Guyana is 1/3 full of material on Peoples Temple, which he said he knows is passed on. He said that on the one hand it is good because they don’t mention Peoples Temple, but on the other hand It is not necessarily all good because of the fact that they didn’t mention Peoples Temple as being treated fairly by the government. Overall he was very pleased with the report. He said the U.S. is now trying to pressure Guyana about the Surinam issue (fishing in the Corentyne river – Surinam is claiming Guyanese fisherman can’t do it) to withhold aid.

He was worried that Bunny Mann may try and disrupt Marcie’s trip. We asked him how, or how could he know, and he said that he had his own contacts etc. He said that in his opinion the trip was a “yes, yes, yes, and yes.” We asked if there was anything we could do to countermand what Mann might do, and he said he was thinking. We also asked if there was anything Marcie should say, and he said that his thoughts were going, and he’d let us know. He said that he could tell us right off that Marcie should say that Guyana is a great place for the recognition and protection of human rights. He said he would talk to us about what could be said etc. I pointed out that we had to do this in conjunction with the Lt. Governors upcoming visit, getting the maximum benefits for both Peoples Temple and Guyana with his trip, which he agreed with.

When we showed him the picture of Jim and Rosalyn Carter, and then explained that when Marcie met Jimmy Carter he made the statement “ever since my wife dined with your husband all I’ve heard is Jim Jones, Jim Jones, etc.” Wills seemed impressed – he didn’t say anything but you could tell.

He called later in the day and said “I thought he (Bunny Mann) was leaving today!” I told him he was supposed to but was sick etc. – he didn’t seem any to pleased he was still here. He asked me “Tell me Tim, do you think he uses dope?” I told him I didn’t know but would find out. That question seems two sided to me. If we tell him we think he does, he will wonder why we haven’t told him earlier (I honestly don’t know – I’ve never heard Paul [Paula Adams] talk about it). If we tell him we don’t think he does , and he doesn’t, then no problem. When Sharon, Paula and I were talking about Bunny Mann that day he asked Paula point blank if Mann had ever mentioned to her that he had suggested that Guyana grew marijuana as a cash crop for foreign exchange. Paula said she hadn’t. This is probably where he gets the drug thing – it is obvious that Wills is very, very pissed at Mann and is out to get him. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.

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STRONG POINTS OF PT IN WILL’S OPINION On his order of importance)

He started the conversation off by telling us that the previous night in a meeting with the Prime Wister, some cabinet members, and MIREV (where McAshley used to work) they were talking about the need to bring people into Guyana. A man named Anderson, from MIREV, brought up Peoples Temple. Burnham said that we were very productive people, that he wished that they (the people there and Guyana in general) could command that kind of organization, and that Peoples Temple should be used as a model. Some of the things they were taking into consideration in the entire context of the conversation of immigrants , what Guyana needs, etc. were: their development program, their agricultural thrust, the need for numbers of people in terms of security, you don’t need alot of population pressure to increase productivity, what kinds of immigrants – are they socialist, etc. They decided no more Jehovah’s Witnesses will be let in. Wills said that in conversation about PT all there marveled at our solidarity. One person stated that Jim Jones alone had achieved this. They couldn’t figure out how we kept our solidarity. Wills said a commission has been set up to study the entire problem (of bringing people in to the country) which will be headed by Arbery Armstrong. He said Peoples Temple would be used as a part of their study. He said we were the 9th or 10th largest population center in Guyana. He said that he interpreted Burnham’s comments to mean that he had Burnham’s approval to go all out for PT and support us.

Strong points

1) Guyana has a migration policy (including the above named reasons) of which Peoples Temple is an integral part. He said that is our strongest point, and the fact that we have good agricultural production, and the organization and method we used in immigrating.

2) Venezuela claims the area we live in as theirs, and Guyana needs to populate that area specifically. He said that Venezuela is not about to argue, kill, or hurt anybody of U.S. descent.

3) We are the most progressive element in a Cinderella area. By Cinderella he means underdeveloped. He said we are by far the most progressive and symbolize the strategy of development for the area.

4) Agriculture is the keystone of development in Guyana and our thrust is efficient agriculture. He said “and I do mean efficient.” He said our agricultural production was excellent.

5) Multi-racialism – One of the key problems of Guyana is race, especially as exploited by the opposition. He said Jonestown is a microcosm of what Guyana should be. He said it is the only area in the entire country where the races are living peaceably.

6) Managerial skills – One of the crucial deficiencies in Guyana is the lack of managerial skills. Peoples Temple manages Jonestown well. Brought up our immigration organization again. He said that Jim Jones is a first class manager of people, physical property, and abstractions. He emphasized the combination and how Jim is good at all of them. He said that Guyana needs to study this and emulate it. He said he wants to use Jim to analyze managerial problems – he said that he really understands people and processes. He mentioned giving Jim the powers to investigate areas where there were problems and then reporting to himself and Burnham.

7) The background of Peoples Temple. He said that society had a problem of getting socialism separated from the church in trying to implement socialism. He said we are the only community that has done that. They have to get rid of the concept of the hereafter.

8) Guyana has a high crime rate, due to the crisis of capitalism and how the British left the country. He said that Jonestown is the 10th largest group of people in Guyana and we have no crime problem. He said therefore Jonestown should be studied as to why that is. He said even if 3/4 of Guyana were like Jonestown it would be good.

9) Community leadership – He said every society needs community leaders. He said that Jim Jones has these qualities. He said that Jim not only has a grasp of local problems, but also sees them in a larger context of national and international – he is able to see both the macro and the micro views. He said that after doing this one must be able to implement their ideals, and Jim Jones has done this. He said that he mentioned to the Prime Minister how impressed he was with the fact that we cooked over open fire to save money and because it was practical. He said that Jim Jones is the type of community leader Guyana needs. He said that Jonestown satisfies the needs of the party (PNC), what they want. He said we have proved we are socialists because of the life that we lead, and it is because of Jim Jones’ leadership.

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10) Every society needs a Jim Jones. – a) his example is a constant reminder of his ideals. He said that Jim Jones is the kind of person that when you make a decision you want to consult with him to see what he would do in that instance. b) JJ is a generating force for human activity. In a positive, not a negative sense. He can get things done both with people and with situations. He said he is the kind of person that if given something to do central leadership would not have to check on. You know that Jim will get the job done, and if there is a problem then he’ll come to you about it, you don’t have to go to him and double check what is happening.

11) Loyalty – How does a leader maintain loyalty to a center and to a group idea? Wills said this requires social engineering, which only very gifted person can do. He said Jim Jones has done this. He maintains loyalty not only to the center and to his people, but is able to receive loyalty from the center and from the people. “

12) The world and Guyana – He said the moral crisis behind all systems is sex, the exploitation of women. He said that men have the “military victory” approach to women and getting them in bed, and that if men spent half as much energy and skill they spend in bed for productivity the world would be in much better shape. He said the world is obtuse about sex, and Guyana is no different from the rest of the world. He said that he felt Jonestown has abolished sexism. He said that sex can be used for procreation or recreation. He said the world right now looks at sex as recreation and procreation is what comes about as a result. He said that he felt that there must be a balance, and that Peoples Temple had that balance. He felt there was a healthy view about sex in PT.

13) He said the world celebrates death more than life. He gave an example of how many people you see at funerals as opposed to how many people celebrate a birth. He said that birth is a joy. He said the children he met in Jonestown were happy – and it was as if they were everybody’s baby, and there was a joy in general when there was a newborn. He then mentioned the grave of Lynetta, and how it had touched him – he said such a tragic thing. He said he was glad that she got to see Guyana, and that’s what he felt when he saw the grave where it was. He said the combination of the two things showed him that we have a healthy outlook towards the problems of birth and death. He then went on to say that the continuity he saw in Jonestown was amazing – with the seniors and youth together. He said it was especially amazing when you considered that they come from different racial and ethnic backgrounds.

He stopped here because we asked him for some weak points, but he said that he could go on, there were more strong points.

We got into a discussion how we appreciated his sensitivity and what would happen if anyone tried to unseat him. He said that he was unpopular with many because he was the “conscience of the party.” He said because of the way he lives and what he stands for even cabinet members  didn’t like him. He said that he was the son of a slave, and that two of his brothers died of malnutrition and a sister from disease. ^:He said that Ministers Hoyte and Green won’t even come into his house because of its humble appearances. He said that one minister even brought him a chair to replace the old torn one he sits in on the front porch to talk to people, and Wills said he passed it on to charity.

Weaknesses of PT

1) As a result of our experiences getting started – the harassment and other things we’ve undergone, Peoples Temple has created certain attitudes a) oversuspicion of people

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Weaknesses of PT as seen by Wills

1) As a result of our background – the harassment we’ve received over the years and the betrayals, we have developed certain attitudes a) oversuspicion of people, b) a search for definiteness in external relations outside the Temple where there can’t be any definiteness – Yes and no answers with no middle, c) the methods of fighting we employed in California to fight the system – the tactics we used, don’t necessarily apply to Guyana. He said a characteristic political reaction is lobbying, but methods differ from place to place. He said we are using the same methods in Guyana we used in California without making allowances for the difference in society’s and cultures. He said it caused us grief on two occasions – once when he got angry with us and the other time when Dr. Reid got angry with us.

2) We have not organized our relation [could be reaction] to the U.S. Embassy. He said that as far as he can see we have dealt with them on an ad hoc basis. He said that there are two aspects to dealing with the Embassy – consular and political (consular meaning the paperwork, etc., political meaning the overall. McCoy represents the consular and Burke, the ambassador, the political.) He said we need to make an overall strategy in dealing with the Embassy, otherwise it makes us weak for division.

3) He said that we are a relatively poor (financially) community. He said that our first priority should be on communications. He said we need some speed of mobility – right now we are depending on the kindness of the GDF and our radio. He said we should think of survival first, then building. He said we need communications, something we can depend on apart from the radio and people helping us. He said we needed to consider getting a small plane or helicopter. (He mentioned the financial aspect I think because he was saying even though these things are expensive, he felt it was necessary for our communications and mobility.) He said that he would help us get a plane if we wanted.

4) Security a) he said we are not difficult b to infiltrate, even if we think so. He said we are easy to infiltrate b) only one effective communications link c) we put alot of trust in people outside. He said he isn’t contradicting himself because we at first are oversuspicious, and then too trusting. We asked for specifics, and he said that he didn’t feel it had reached the danger point and if it did he would tell us d) We are bad at sifting intelligence. He said we are good at collecting it, but bad at sifting it and drawing proper Inferences from it. e) we are weak in local propaganda. He said we are relying on personal contacts to convince people, and therefore have a limited propaganda technics. He said Guyana is a radio and reading public, with 90% literacy. He complemented our radio show but didn’t feel it was enough. He said you not only have to inform people of what we are doing but also sway their opinions to our side.

At this point he had to leave, but he said there were other weak points he hadn’t mentioned, but said he would.

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WILLS (OUR TALK WITH HIM AFTER HE TOLD US HE WAS FIRED – 13/2/78)

– we petitioned about the PNC conference and talking to Reid, he said that Reid was a very practical man. He is sure that Reid only gave way on the decision of firing Wills because of the decision being that of the majority

– Burnham had to give way to the conservatism of John Carter and Bunny Mann

– Burnham had to adopt the policy of survival first, socialism second

– Wills still favors the PNC because he feels the PNC will orchestrate better and knows how hard to shove the US

– Burnham needs solidarity to win the election and that’s why Wills had to go

– Burnham offered him a job on the Elections Remission for the Govt.

– Wills still feels that Bishop will throw out the Stoen case, the right wing is not pressing on the Stoen case, Bishop sees this as Burnham’s decision so he’ll go along wth Burnham

– Wills said he told Burnham he will always be loyal to the PNC but people are calling to be sure he is tame (Wills is)

– Hoyt Green Field-Ridley were his chief attackers/ Field-Ridley is a junior minister but that is only because her husband is a senior minister and they didn’t think it would look good for a husband and wife to both be senior ministers

– Bunny Mann used to be PPP and wore Indian clothes/ he called himself Bunny Singh. Burnham won him over to the PNC by saying the Party would pay for his lifestyle. Burnham got him girls, and picked up the tab for his lifestyle

– the CIA also worked on Bunny so that Bunny would leave the PPP as they wanted to break up the PPP strength

– Bunny still has CIA ties (Wills thinks)

– Bunny has to have some secret on the [illegible word]

– Reid  doesn’t like Bunny/ he was Reid’s Permanent Secretary at one time but that didn’t work out/ they didn’t get along. Bunny for one thing didn’t think he had to come to work on time.

Re Wills Friendliness to us

– he said that never came up in the discussion about his being fired by Reid or Burnham (or the other Ministers according to Tim, though I didn’t hear him say that)

– this whole firing thing is a struggle of the right against the left

– Burnham needs Reid badly though/ Reid is the only man that can tell Burnham off. We are in with Reid and thus we are in with the power block

– Reid is an old man though and is slightly irascible. We should not worry him too much. He gets dogmatic about socialist issues even when he needs to be more flexible

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WILLS 13/2/78 (right after being fired)

– he said that Reid is a practical ,an/ he only gave way because of the majority of people wanting Wills to resign

– Burnham gave way to conservatism in the Cabinet

– Burnham had to go for survival first, socialism second

– even tho he was fired, Wills said that the PNC will orchestrate better, they know how hard to shove the US (and how not a to)

– Burnham needs solidarity to win the election

– Wills was offered a position as Elections Commission for the Govt.

– Wills said re the Stoen case and his being fired – he said Bishop will still throw out the case, the right wing is not pressing him on the Stoen case / Bishop sees it as Burnham’s decision

– Wills said he always will be loyal to the PNC

– said that people are calling him “just to be sure he’s tame’

– said that Hoyt, Green, Field-Ridley were his chief attackers / Field Ridley is a Jr. Minister

– Bunny Mann used to be PPP, he called himself Bunny Singh and wore East-Indian clothes, Burnham won Bunny over to the PNC and said that he would pay for Bunny’s expenses thru the party, Burnham got Bunny girls and picked up the tab for Bunny’s entertainment

– the CIA also worked on Bunny to get him to come out of Jagan’s – to break up the PPP strength

– Bunny has to have some secret on Burnham, because Bunny drinks and whores around, Reid doesn’t like Bunny

– Bunny was Reid’s Permanent Secretary (but didn’t work out as he came late to work etc) -Wills’ friendliness to PT was never raised as a part of his being fired

– it’s a struggle between the left and right in the party

– how does PT fit in/ Burnham needs Reid badly, Reid is the only man that can tell Burnham off. We are in with Reid and so we are in with the power block, however Reid is an old man and is slightly irascible, he gets dogmatic (about socialism) and doesn’t know how to be as flexible (as Burnham) even when he needs to be/ Wills said not to bother Reid with letters etc.

– when I mentioned how Reid had yelled at us when Debbie and I ran up to his car, he said, “That’s because he likes you. If he didn’t like you, he’d ignore you.”

– Reid is doctrinaire and dogmatic about socialism, he’s been a headmaster and that’s the old headmaster part of him

– Reid is the Patriarch of the party and it is Reid that runs the PNC/ also Reginald Percival who was Chairman of the PNC left the PNC to go to England and that makes Reid even more indispensable

– Green is not a socialist but he is practically oriented, he likes people who do things (that is true as Green told us that he was practically oriented)/ Green does things and thinks later, he did something and didn’t consult on it

– Green likes the practical approach to medicine

– don’t knock the US in front of Green, he likes the US/ he likes Moslems, Mohammad All

– Wills said one of the conflicts he had with other ministers was the distribution of foods, he Wills said they ought to distribute food more, some ministers said people would just hoard the food/ Wills said it’s a matter of govt. credibility and you should distribute

– we asked if we could help (JJ had offered to help we said, in any way), he said “No, it’s my battle, you have the Stoen case to deal with”

– Shabadeen (the new Justice Minister), his brother used to be PPP, but came over to the PNC/ Shahabadeen [Justice Minister Mohammed Shahabadeen] is a professional lawyer and is very British and doctrinaire

– re Stoen case, Wills said Shahabadeen is out maneuvered on the Stoen case, he will tend to let the law do what it will and Bishop got the word that Burnham and Wills wants it settled on our side

– Wills said the Stoen case won’t be reversed (won’t be changed to go against us)

– Wills said Blacken is a very nice liberal with a touch of radicalism

– Burke tho is an “ugly American”

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(‘WILLS CONT.

Blacken spoke to Naciemento [Kit Nascimento], and told him he could lecture at Columbia or NY

– Naciamento’s wife is very ill in Boston and Naciamento wants to be in the US

– Naciamento and Kennard have landed visas (for the US)

THOSE WHO LIKE US

– Reid

– Burnham

– Mingo (because of orders from Reid)

– Green (he has no degrees so he can empathize with Larry) – his job General Secretary of the PNC was taken by Reid (so Reid and Green have some problems)

Hoyt and Green have a fight going (for advancement) – Reid favors Hoyt

– Hoyt is the “hard man” of the party,

– Hoyt was the next man to give out on the decision to fire Wills, Wills has been helping Hoyt in his job but when Hoyt asks Wills for help, Wills has to save Hoyt’s dignity and they just act like they are conversing but Wills is answering some of Hoyt’s questions

– Hoyt is impatient, is a nationalist, follows the strong party line, he would see us in “sections” (one detail at a time)

– Hope is CIA controlled and has right wing tendencies/ he has women in NY and Toronto (a bit like Bunny) – Hope speaks with Blacken and Burke and is a yes man to them but he is a good classical economist and is used by Burnham

– Hope doesn’t understand socialist politics very well and with a stroke of the pen can make unemployment/ he thinks unemployment is good for the economy

THOSE WHO SAID “A GOVT IN A GOVT” about PT

– Field Ridley

– Naciamento

– Jack (as a generalization not in regard to a specific aspect)

– Naraine

– King (he’s a hustler, pretends to be a socialist)

– Hoyt (in regard to our education system)

– Naraine has gone to India to do yoga

– Burnham is necessary because he is the only leader who can mobilize the masses/ the people don’t want to vote for Jagan

– Jackson (Foreign Minister) is a new guy, he will treat us with official reserve/ he will take orders from Mann who will threaten to go to Burnham if anything doesn’t go his way

– the Party will never trust Mann because he was formerly PPP

– Burnham said that his hand was forced on Wills’ resignation

– he said sit tight and wait and I’ll bring you back to the mainspring [mainstream] when it’s politically expedient

– Reid was overwrought by it and won’t speak to Wills even now, but that’s how Reid is (He’ll be sympathetic but won’t speak to Wills for a while)

– 4-5 people threatened to resign if Wills wasn’t resigned, Field-Ridley, Green, Hoyt, were 3 of them

– he said Jackson will treat us like US citizens / he will refer us to Mingo because we were let in so it would be treated like a local affair (sounds contradictory)

– any letters from US like the Oliver letter will go to the Justice Ministry/ he didn’t think Shahabadeen would interfere in this kind of thing, he’d just write back that the courts will take care of the situation

– he said when Marcie goes to Washington, just don’t link the Stoen case with Cuba or Angola

Cuba & the USSR (embassies) see this thing as a swing to the right (don’t quote Wills on this)

– Reid likes China, he likes the practical changes of China but when Wills talks to Reid about the foreign policy being bad in China Reid agrees

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WILLS conversation (after he got fired)

– he had just heard that Burnham was sending him to Mathews Ridge with Hoyt, Teekah, Shaharideen [Justice Minister Mohammed Shahabadeen] Fri – Sun to work on the constitution and said he would visit Jonestown

– he said ’’Burnham needs me”

– he said he had a party member PNC who called him over his being ’’laid off” and wondered if there was a serious party split

– Wills felt that Burnham choosing him to go with Hoyt etc. was telling the right wing that they’d have to work with Wills. Wills interpreted it as Burnham saying, “I’m giving you my lamb (to slaughter) but you’ll have to work with him.”

– Wills said he still has hopes of “mounting up the party ladder”

– he said Teekah loves power, he loves his car, etc.

– he said that Rashid (who is the Personal Asst. of the PM and who is on a Committee that is policy making) was a radical student in London who was in the Underground and who participated in sit ins/ Rashid is known for getting things done, and has good follow thru/ Rashid chases up things for Burnham to be sure they are done

– Wills said that the ones that were going with Wills to Mathews Ridge were all lawyers, but he couldn’t understand why Jack wasn’t chosen as well as Jack is a lawyer and it would be logical for him to go

– he said that Burnham had called him

– Wills always tells us that Reid supports us strongly/ he said that Reid acts first / the enemies of PNC (and socialism ) are afraid of him and think “He’s ruthless”/ he would have thrown out Stoen if it was up to him and he didn’t like Stoen’s connections) – but Wills also said that Reid has trouble being flexible/ he’s socialist and doesn’t like to make compromises even when he needs to

– however he said Reid is close to 70 years old and the age of death in Guyana is lower in Guyana than in the US

– he said that if there is a fight for power between Green and Hoyt there will be a move to the right regardless because of a move toward US dollars

– however Wills feels that we PT are needed by the right even in the long run/ he said the right wing will face the problem of reconciling their philosophy with colonial hang-ups (they will have to have some policy recognizing socialists)

– also we are agricultural and agriculture is largely the potential of the nation) so he feels the right wing will overlook that we are socialist as they need people who will produce and also they will have to make some compromises with

– he said that if Burnham died, Reid would take over/ but Wills said that the people would want him (WILLS) because he is popular with the people

– he said that Green and Hoyt both have supporters but Wills has credibility

– he said that Mingo goes along with Reid (in support Mingo would do what Reid said)

– he said that McDavid is the potential Ambassador to Moscow/ he married Villa’s favorite niece (however the woman who is an executive of the WRSM (Womens Rev. Socialist Movement showed me Mrs. McDavid and said they were divorced) / McDavid is one of the policy makers of the govt tho he isn’t a minister

– also influential are Alexander head of the YSM, MacWilfred MCWilfred

– Wills former wife was the first cousin of Viola too

– there would be a reshuffling in the govt, if Burnham died and everybody’s worried about who’s next in line/ he thinks people want to get in Dr. Reid’s good book and treat us nice

– Reid can say about us if people give us trouble, “I say no or I’ll go” and they will line up

– he Reid loves agriculture and self-help/ he hates waste, white collar paper pushers and he likes the fact we went into a remote area / but he doesn’t respond to “letter Lobbying” (our writing him)

– it’s important we get into the party structure more, most important thing we’ve done

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Wills (cont)

– he said that Leo Mathews is another policy maker for the govt.

the ones I mentioned before, Rashid, Leo Mathews, Alexander, McDavid and McWilfred are all on the executive Committee that meets every week and makes decisions and decides parameters – other groups in govt meet biannually or quarterly like the Biannual Congress or Quarterly General Council

– he said that Brigadier Price has a personal loyalty to Burnham but the US could buy him

– Naciemento said he was going to resign (but when the PPP picked this up in their paper he denied it)

– the letter Wills showed us from Burnham saying he regretted Wills having to resign and wished to have his help as soon as possible was signed ”Odo‘‘ which is Burnham’s nick name and Burnham had crossed out “Prime Minister” to sign it Odo/ there was no secretary’s initials on it/ he said in it that he “deeply felt” bad about Wills’ necessity to resign (Wills said that this was worded carefully in case Wills showed it to someone but it still said that he “deeply felt” about it

– the PM said that he is looking forward [to] the “earliest possible point of time” when he can take Wills up on his offer to be of help

– Wills said that he thought all the ministers were a little scared to talk to him (Wills) being afraid that it would look disloyal to do so

– he said that Reid will help him (Wills) without talking to him, as he says that is how Reid operates

– he said we shouldn’t underestimate Collins and Mann’s personal and informational access to the PM

– he said that Hope (MINISTER HOPE) already has asked Blacken and Burke to get him a job in the US with the World Bank, but now Hope is under surveillance by the PM as he was discovered, he threatened to resign but he was convinced to stay in his position/ now he depends on the good will of the US if he ever wants to get a job there / this was confidential info Wills told us. Blacken told him Wills this and Wills figures that if Blacken told him it’s because Hope was discovered and they don’t want him

– since Mann would have to agree with Hope ever going to Washington, he thinks Hope will have to deal with Mann. But Hope being in finances would know info and would be able to blackmail Mann. Mann lives off a couple of prostitutes and has robbed the exchequer (by saying he was going on a diplomatic tri p to the US and being found there with a woman) – Hope will abuse Mann to the PM so that the PM would put Mann in charge of Hope when Hope goes on govt. business to the US.

– this is an election year so Burnham has to woo the conservatives and racists

– Bunny has the US all lined up so he has to be dealt with a certain way / Burnham thinks sort of like a father toward Mann – he says, “You’re wicked but you’re bright”/ PM used to act like a father toward Wills

– Wills thinks the PM is lonely (being a socialist and not always having support)

– Wills said the PPP respects him (because he’s a socialist)

– Wills said with great feeling about the PM “He could have been a hero and axed those guys” (in other words he should have told the ones off that said they’d leave if Wills wasn’t fired)

– but on the other hand it could have split the party

– he said that if there was a coup they could say Burnham has a bad heart, and take him prisoner but he thinks the party needs Burnham

– they need Burnham because he does a good job with the army and the police but unfortunately Burnham sacrificed a strong left wing person in Wills

– he said the party can embarrass Burnham but they can’t do without him

– he said that the Foreign Minister Jackson is a Maoist

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[Editor’s note: One name is spelled three different ways in this document, and may be in code to begin with (Claus = Claude = Claud). Most of the names on this memo are in code.]

2/13/77

Meeting with Hudson today

Points made

Two people taking his position as the work is too much for one.

Nena: Mr. Jackson Shirley Netties dept.

Jason: Solicitor General of the country (work with Fitz)

George likes Carl’s family very much. When he yelled at them a sign of friendship otherwise he doesn’t talk.

George’s image as a teacher of long-standing is important to PNC.

Claus the only one with the skills for the purpose.

Hue says that Bennet will just about tell Nana what to do. Nana will talk with [illegible name]

Since Claus has made his views known in reference to Wanda, Hue felt that Nena would not try to change things around. He will stay with Claus’s decision.

In order for Claus to become a teacher he had to make accommodations with the right.

Uses his authority as a teacher very well.

Claus concerned with survival as a teacher first and then what he teaches as a teacher second.

Hue concerned about keeping PNC together re: there is disruptiopn of some in the organization

Maxwell not exactly trusted by government because he is friends with Coleman. First Claus plate up to Maxwell, saying he would help him in his lifestyle. (PNC would pay the dental thus to get him out of PPP. That was to weaken Coleman.

Bennett was interested in having Maxwell leave friendship with PPP – paid money to do it too.

George doesn’t like Maxwell.

Max has secrets on Claud.

Max used to work for George – now is being used temporarily to teach but

Split between left & right

Larry felt [illegible word] people can’t trust Max [illegible words] fit.

And felt that his friendship with Karl wasn’t the issue as it wasn’t raised by Claud or George.

[Illegible two line paragraph]

_____unfriendly guy, guy that was a problem in the past. Seems as though he is going to visit Joseph – his companion is there. Wants Guyana to get him a job near there.

In reference to the people that make the one to one statement, Larry said they made his comments at different times and in different ways.

John: said the reason that Nena would not get involved is because he’s new

If George takes a strong stand Claude takes one.

Larry felt Max would be pushing his luck if he gets involved in it. It will be useful for Nena to get in it either.

Max adds fuel to the fire, divisive, a problem

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Max has been working on this since Sept.

Asked what Shirley & Netty felt about this – they said it was a strong move to the right, but Larry didn’t want this passed on to anyone.

Larry said not to bother George, he likes Karl & his people, but he gets cranky, irritable and older. Said that we shouldn’t send letters etc.

George likes China, except in the things that Larry claims that he told her about.

George is a practical & concrete person.

Hue said that the reason that he likes to work with PNC is because they know how to manage better & know just how hard it is to shove Joseph USA.

Wed  feels as though he is no longer as useful as he was before.

Claude  said that the exams may not be. He hasn’t confided in Larry recently.

His new job is to be related to the process of exams. He’ll always be loyal to PNC. Mrs. Rogers called to see how “tame” he was.

Said that not only is the CIA involved in offering assistance to Max on his project, but they are still involved with Larry.

Since George is so strongly in favor of Karl – has in when … It’s an important strength.

George gets dramatic and inflexible with his viewpoint. Hue felt that he wasn’t flexible enough at times.

Rodgers is practical & that’s why he likes Karl. Likes the practical approach of the Dr. Schacht. He also likes Dad.

 Problem that Larry mentioned on PNC:

They ought to give more to Phillips’ people.

Rodgers didn’t come.

Hue split time with Shirley and Netty & had to do the same for [2 illegible names]. Point made: don’t like to go too much towards Shirley.

Rodgers is sympathetic to Larry – same situation.

[Several illegible lines]

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Larry said that Claude had to be willing to give into the right for the upcoming elections

Claude will need the party to be together – even if Larry had to change teaching positions

Sad that Fritz was still in the frame of mind in reference to John. Mike just [illegible word] the current action out.

The right wing element is not pressing about John. Fitz saw that John being here with up to Claude and since it was his decision that he stayed, he’d go along.

Larry mentioned that some don’t like his diplomatic skills: Rodgers & Mrs. Rodgers.

George is the only one that can really tell Claude off, George really is the one that keeps the PNC going.

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WILLS 2/78

– he said we got a good report in Cabinet (about our educational program after the team visited but said we should not ask the logistics or mechanics – said he was sworn to secrecy)

– he promised someone not to let us know who gave us a good report

(However later on in the conversation he said that Teekah now had the problem to convey the decision to Hoyte and would have to let Hoyte know that the PM was the one that took the action)

– this is because Teekah (according to Wills) has discovered that access to the PM is not all that is involved as Teekah has recently discovered that others have access to the PM as well as him

– Teekah tends to like tough politics

– Wills said the orders are to integrate our school into the Guyanese system as is/ they feel it’s a good system

– I told him that someone was talking about me getting the Cuban dr. for him (this was the strategy given to me to keep him from talking about the Antilles situation), etc and he said that he thought it was the Cubans talking trying to corroborate something

RE ANTILLES WOMAN (JENNEFER SMALL)

– her father Leon Small is an alcoholic, 3 times has gone to AA, 4th time successful, first 3 times he lost his job (govt job), but got it back

– Pat is from West Coast Berbice

– Pat is a strong matriarchal figure (her sons are pitiful with no confidence)

– Wills said she’ll do anyting for her children, legally and illegally, she has prostituted and so has Jennifer

– this destroyed her 2nd daughter Marilyn (who is the sweetest of the sisters but doesn’t have much confidence)

– Wills is Jennefer’s godfather/ he financed the mother (Pat Small)’s boutique and Pat’s husband paid it back in stock

– Wills bought clothes from the family at an exorbitant rate (to keep them going)

– Pat is on the fringe of the diplomatic corps: so gets invitations to parties/ her daughters advance thru being screwed

– Jennefer left school to work at GBS / met Ron Saunders at GBS [Guyana Broadcasting System] (Ron Singh was his name but he changed it), Ron worked under Shirley Field-Ridley/ Jennefer got pregnant by Ron and went to Canada to change her life style/ Ron married daughter of the man that had Wills job before Wills did [marginal note: “Sonny Ramphal’s daughter”] / she wanted to remain in Canada but got caught shoplifting there/ she would come quite frequently to Wills’ office to have him get her off the charge

– Ron Saunders is with Radio Antilles so Wills guesses he got Jennefer the job

– Wills said the Small family will use you

– Pat was a big PNC group leader on the East Coast/ big act like “down with Jagan”, but she always is in some kind of legal problem ^

(cont. next page)

[Scribbled out note at bottom of page]

P.D. Sharma 63396

8 children unwanted, Kingston, malnutrition etc, convalescent home

(call papers and radio about it)

– if no one wants them we’ll take them/ we’re not that flush and have had some difficulty, and a lot of children now brought to us from around our area, saved their lives, do have couples who will happily adopt children

– wonderful medical facility, no better than Georgetown, but exceptionally good

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WILLS 15/2/78

– he said we shouldn’t knock the decision (when we asked him what we could do) but wherever we go if Wills is called dishonest or anything we could correct what is said (we said of course we’d do that)

– if we are friendly to him (like coming to see him when he’s in town with Hoyt, Jackson and Teekah) people will see that his own have not rested him as well as strangers

– JJ had said to see what he thinks about this/ does he think perhaps Reid and Bumham are placating him? – he said re Burnham, “Well, he knows I’m not angry”

– but then he said “it’s stupid my being butchered for a right wing holiday”

– he didn’t want us to write to the PM or Reid about him

– he said “the PM doesn’t want me to walk around free” (that’s why PM is having Wills meet with Jackson, Teekah in Mathews Ridge)

– he said that it wasn’t the PM’s fault, “They forced his hands”

– he said that he thought it would have some international ramifications that they got rid of him/ he feels he Wills has some prestige and image /

– Cubans and USSR feel it’s a shift of policy/ Caribbean wonders if it’s a shift in policy

– Mann knows how to use his social approach (his maneuvers social contacts) in diplomacy

– when we mentioned Dick McCoy telling us about Bentley Benn coming to him for CIA help, he said maybe Dick McCoy was telling us something true to start dissemination strategy/ and then later he might tell us something false to disseminate

– re contacting Father Morrison /he said “It’s an election year.” “Play your friends”

– Mentor reports directly to the PM/ he’s sort of a Guyana CIA / he reports to the PM not to Mingo because he gets canned if something goes wrong and he hasn’t taken care of it, so he takes initiative in things

– the CIA, Cubans, Russians, all come by and watching Wills

– Haialidan (Mohammed) called to see if Wills was still loyal to the party/ people in the party are speculating whether or not there will be a new party or not

– Chief CIA monitor Peter Taylor, English. He used to write a for a Daily, Daily Argosy, he was editor actually/ he’s retired and has been in Guyana a long time/ he is in the British MI6 (spy operation) and the CIA or he spies for them both [paragraph starred, with note at top of page: “People spying on our radio”]

– Fielden Singh spy on our radio also as does Peter Taylor/ Peter Taylor lives right across from Wills and once I saw him looking out of his window at us

– Fielden Singh, live on New Garden, brother of Bihop Singh/ Singh is the leader of the right wing group United Force

– CIA Dick McCoy is in charge

– American British and Canadian spy on us

– Wills has gotten reports on our radio mundane stuff except for the Stoen case which was emotionally charged/ we are not very sophisticated in radio codes, he said they can tell in a month what our codes are/ we need a series of codes like “duck” means something etc. based on agriculture

– Caribbean Contact (paper) financed by the CIA, Ford Foundation and Caribbean churches.

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Wills 2/15/78. 2/14/78, 2/13/78

– basically he said he was caught in a “classic squeeze play”, with 5 ministers – Green, Hoyte, Jack, Field-Ridley, and Hope – threatening to walk out if Burnham didn’t ask for Wills resignation.

– He thinks Bunny Mann is the main cause of this whole thing. He said Burnham was put in a corner by the other ministers, and he had to give in, or it would have split the party during election year. He said the right wing vote is the difference between a PPP or PNC victory, and that’s another reason why Burnham allowed himself to be put in a corner. He said that Reid held out till the end, but the pressure was to great.

– He showed us a letter from Burnham, and typed by Burnham, expressing his regret at Wills resignation. The letter stated, in part, “you have no idea how deeply affected I am by the necessity of your resignation.” It goes on to thank Wills for offering his services if he would ever need them, and then in the last paragraph states that he hopes to do that “at the earliest possible time.” The letter was signed Oto, which is Burnham’s nickname, and Burnham had crossed out the words Prime Minister.

– about 10 minutes after Burnham sent the letter, he sent over a draft of the new Guyana constitution, asking Wills to go over it and return it to him by Monday. Wills was asking Sharon and I what our opinion was of Burnham’s letter, and then the fact he sent over the constitution.

– Sharon and I both agree that it seems that Wills is looking for something to believe in when it comes to Burnham. He made the statement that Burnham could have been a hero of the left if he had stood up to the right wingers.

– he said he felt our future in Guyana was good. He said that we were “strongly protected” by Dr. Reid. He said that others in the cabinet know, from things he and Mingo have said, that “you better best nice to Peoples Temple” or Dr. Reid will be upset. He said Reid likes us primarily because we’re socialist, but also because he is a man who likes agriculture, and he likes our production and the fact that we’ve gone into the northwest and farmed that area, cook over open fires, etc. He said “you got Dr. Reid covered.”

– He felt that Hope had more to do with his being forced to resign than he knew about. He said that Hope had been gotten a job with the World Bank through Blacken and Burke at the U.S. Embassy, with the help of Bunny Mann. Hope got as far as the airplane on his way to the U.S. and Burnham stopped him. He is now under constant surveillance, Wills said “not quite house arrest.” Wills says that now Hope has lost his usefulness to the U.S. At the time all this was happening, is when we approached Hope with our duty free requests. Because of his desire to be in good with the U.S., and because (Wills says) we had our problems with the U.S. Govt., Hope did not give us our concessions. He felt the relationship between Mann and Hope was one of blackmail. He said that Hope knows Mann’s financial dealings in the States, while Mann knows of Hope’s efforts to get out of Guyana. They manipulate each other on this basis. We asked him why Blacken and Burke would be telling him this, and he said because Hope was no longer useful to them, and also to try and help convince him to take the job they were offering (as lecturer on the Ivy League circuit). He said he felt it was the CIA way of trying to feet him out of the country.

– he said that the junior ministers did not know about the real reason for his resignation, and they were supposed to be keeping it quiet.

– he said the move to get rid of him had been building since last September.

– he said that Reid and Burnham were the only other two real socialists in the Cabinet. He said Reid was a practically oriented socialist, and Burnham was an intellectual socialist, trying to implement the best way he can considering the circumstances. He said to get into power Burnham had to “make accommodations with the right.”

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– he said that Burnham was very wise on how to use state power. He said
he is concerned with his political survival first, and socialism second,

– he’ said Burnham has already offered him job as elections commissioner
later in the year (supposedly a non-partisan position)

– in regards to John’s situation he didn’t feel that his removal would effect it at all. He said it had gone too far, that he had given instructions on what was to be done, and Burnham had confirmed those with Bishop, so the process had gone too far to reverse now. We asked if the right wing could force Burnham on this situation, couldn’t he be forced on John’s situation, and he said the right wing was not pressing on that
issue at all.

– he said that originally Bunny Mann was PPP, and was known as Bunny Singh. He said the CIA worked on getting him out of the PPP, and
Burnham did also. He said Mann still maintains his CIA connections.

– he feels Mann has armed himself with a secret against Burnham, and is using it. He thinks it goes back to the days of when Mann was dealing w/ CIA and Burnham was getting him out of PPP – mentioned Burnham used to pick up his drinking tabs through PNC funds.

– we asked if PT had come into the picture at all and he said no. He said that he thought part of Mann’s motivation was PT, but nothing was
ever said overtly.

– one of the reasons the ministers wanted Wills out because he suggested
a redistribution of goods. We asked what exactly did he mean, and he said he wanted to decentralize some of the larger industries, such as sugar. He said the Executives and higher ups didn’t want to leave the city and the suburbs for the country – which would have happened with his plan – and so rose up against him.

– He said that Burnham needs Reid. He called Reid the patriarch of the PNC. Said he was getting old however, over 60. He said Burnham runs the government and Reid runs the party. He said Reid drives himself too hard.

– He said we had a plus with Hamilton Green because he likes people who do things for themselves, he is practically oriented, and he likes our medical program. He said he is very pro-US, and we should never criticize the US to him. He said Green also liked our practical approach to agriculture. He said Green does not like Reid, because he was the former #2 man. He also said that Reid would opt for Hoyte over Green for Gen. Sec of Party if that came up

– He said that Hoyte was the last to cave in before Reid in forcing resignation (he contradicts himself here, because he also said Hoyte was one of his main attackers). He said Hoyte was very nationalistic, loyal, and impatient, doctrinaire in politics. (In evaluating us) Hoyte would compartmentalize approaching us area by area such as medicine, agriculture, etc.

– the ministers who said we were a gov’t within a gov’t are Field-Ridley. Nascimento, Jack, Narraine, and King, He said Hoyte said it in reference to education, and Jack in a general sense. He said that as far as he knew none of this was said in front of either Burnham or Reid. He said it wasn’t all said at the same time, or with exactly the same words, but they all meant the same thing.

– he feels Jackson will treat us with official reserve. Said he is a professional diplomat. Said that Jackson would be taking orders from. Bunny Mann and Mann would run ministry by continual threat of going to Burnham.

– he feels that he must wait quietly for his opportunity to return to a cabinet position. He is confident Burnham, will give him one in the future.

– he asked us again for some librium, said he needs to sleep.

– he mentioned that Jim knows how to disagree with somebody, and make you want to thank him for disagreeing and being so kind as to tell you. He said it takes a very talented individual to do that.

– Wills said that Burnham is offering him the job to work on the constitution because 1) He is worried he might be angry and doesn’t want him running around saying things, which implies both placation and restriction.

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2) because the right wing forced his hand, he’s pissed about it, and this is one way for him to get back at them 3) because he has skills than Burnham needs 4) because there had been international repercussions ­– the Russians and Cubans have interpreted this as a swing to the right by the Guyanese government, and the Caribbean countries are wondering. He has to stay visible to avoid too much adverse reaction. He said that Bunny Mann is going around in D.C. and announcing that it is a swing the right, and taking credit for it.

– he said that we are being monitored by several people. He mentioned Peter Taylor, who lives across the street from Wills who is a right winger, former newsman, and feeds intelligence to the British. He also mentioned Fielder Singh, former leader of the right wing in Guyana, he said the CIA does it, and Dick McCoy is their boss; and that of course the Guyana government was listening also. He said he had seen reports of our traffic, and said they were quite mundane, except for dealing with Tim Stoen, which he said was emotion charged. He said that our codes were not sophisticated enough, he suggested setting up several codes and a code for switching back and forth to confuse listeners. He said that of course we were loyal to the government or we would have heard from them long ago.

– He said the CIA, KGB, and Cubans have been driving in front of his house seeing who he is talking to, including when we have come by and talked with him.

– he advised against bringing Morrison or the Catholic Standard up at this time. He said it is an election year and they are unpredictable, we should have only friends that we know for sure are friends visiting now. He said that Caribbean Contact is a CIA front, funded by the Ford Foundation, the CIA, and the Caribbean Churches.

– we told him about police breaking into 6 of our crates, and asked [illegible word] Mingo wouldn’t know, and he said that Mentor, assistant to the Commissioner of Police, is actually in charge of internal security and intelligence. He is the one who received the Interpol report (according to John Fernandes) and is only required to report to Burnham.

– he wants us to have three people meet him in Matthews Ridge for the sake of solidarity and to impress the other ministers. He also said he is visiting as an official party member. Doesn’t know if other ministers will be coming.

– he said that one of the good impacts of our solidarity is that it will appear to some that “strangers-outsiders” are treating him better than his own people (Guyanaese)

[handwritten “Thomas” – could be code name for Tim Carter]

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Wills 16/2/78

– re Hoyt, he said Ministers don’t do that write letters to the editor/ he could have gotten a civilian to write/ that’s what Wills said he would do

– said that Hoyt has his own purposes to serve

– says Field-Ridley wouldn’t speak for Hoyt unless she got clearance from someone

– said that Hoyt left one of his titles out Minister of Regional Devt – all the Regional Ministers like Carmichael operate to Ministry thru Hoyt

– Hamilton Green is strong in Georgetown/ Hoyt is following Georgetown

– there is a tendency to resent any foreign/

– we’re new, dedicated and have access to Reid/ we were seen shaking hands with Reid

– Regional area is in a state of flux/ they are replacing the chairman who absconded

– Green more popular in Georgetown than Hoyt

– we showed by example what the party should be like/ we are under the patronage of Reid, not attack on Reid/ Hoyt just had his own purposes in mind but he went too far in his letter

– Green psychologically wouldn’t let Hoyt speak on Health, it must have been the Propaganda Committee that has Naciamento on it that got it in/ majority decision on what to put in and this propaganda Committee works with Field-Ridley/ there are 7-8 on the committee

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WILLS same day (afternoon)

– he said the regional system is so inefficient, progressive agriculture area like Mathews Ridge/ arrangements are so bad that if not for PT there would be hail chaos and confusion

– Reid likes Hoyt more than Green/ Hoyt is the party hatchet man

– our article would give the impression that PT is the only one to bring elementary decencies to the area

– he can see why Hoyt felt the need to reply, sensitive/ Hoyt can see our solidarity, and that we are a good productive unit (Wills talked to Hoyt), our social organization is an example to others in an agriculture region / our methods of mobilization are to be copied

– but Hoyt is peeved by our methods of lobbying, sent him tracts, letters etc./ our method not our motive could a cause a certain degree of resentment

– he feels those letters we sent are “documents that serve our own purposes”

– budge [budget] up for the 27th, govt policy up for criticism/ Hoyt’s flanks are exposed

– economic questioning of corruption, inefficiency of govt medical facilities/ Green could question and expose Hoyt as not doing enough for the region

– Hoyt’s emotional reaction/ probably will regret it next month

– some people may have looked at our article and thought that medical in the NW was ineffectual except for us

– Hoyt said it was also an attack on Field Ridley/ she also accepts what is given without questioning it and it could hurt the govt

– Ridley didn’t see the inference in the Dymally article and she should have (thinks Hoyt) – had it been brought to her attention, she might have modified it some

– PT guilty of putting weights on personalities but not a enough weighing of the correlation of forces/

– drive for increased productivity in Guyana, PT jealously regarded as engines of production/ some feel that it would be good if everyone were like PT

– healthy emotion but produces also unhealthy criticism (jealousy)

– this is an indictment of our people as unable to mobilize Guyana agriculture/ we in PT create a flourishing agriculture commune and Guyana 10 years after Independence haven’t been able to do it

– political event of the week is Wills’ departure from office – one of the many things used by Mann was PT, other top politicians who feel threatened have to distance themselves factionally

– Cabinet knows Mann used PT, same people that Mann used will distance themselves

– Wills was chosen to go to the NW with Hoyt, it can’t look like Wills is going there to correct deficiencies left by Hoyt

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WILLS CONT.

Regional Conference/several things happened

– chairman absconded

– party lost numbers

– PT attended

– Reid made clear that PT is in and that their example should be followed

– Hoyt is a need to show all’s right in Denmark because of the fight between him and Green and Green has more popularity in Georgetown

– Policy differences between Hoyt and Green have nothing to do with PT

– Hoyt’s article isn’t as serious as you think it is, just a response to a pressing monetary crisis

– however, Wills agreed that it could lead to the people believing we are out of favor with the government

– reply could be sent to the press/ Wills dictated this:

Dear Editor:

We wish to refer to the letter of Minister Hoyt. We wish to make it clear that it was never intended to criticize the medical facilities of the Northwest. If such an inference could be drawn, we wish to apologize reserveably in fact. The existing medical care in the area is a tribute to the energy of the loyal and dedicated officials who never captured the public eye but who in their own quiet way performs duties beyond the call of duty. What we were trying to say is PT has been proud to supplement the existing facilities because of a commitment of PT to the development and progress of Guyana. This commitment of ours is voluntary, a symbol of our total desire for integration into Guyanese society.

Yours Cooperatively

– Bishop asked for an interview with Wills on Monday (but when we asked about it he claimed he hadn’t met with him yet)

– said our position still is good, the appearance and attendance at the PNC conf. was the best thing

– re Reid, they can’t attack Reid/can’t get rid of number 2 man

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Conversation with Wills 20/2/78 Marcie, TB [Teri Buford], Tim, Sharon, Jocelyn

– mentioned he was offered a position in the government by Hoyte (after he left Jonestown) elections commissioner, (advisor on Foreign Affairs, special aid to the  prime minister.

– he said that Teekah told Hoyte when they were waiting to leave Kaituma (Wills, Hoyte, teekah, Shahabaden, Gaskin, Carmichael), that he had been stopped at the gate, along with the police officer Simon, and not allowed in upon request. Simon was very upset about this, and so was Teekah, especially because it was a minister or police officer that had to ask permission to come in. Wills said legally the police officer doesn’t have a right to come in. When Hoyte was told this, Wills said he became “incensed.” Teekah made the statement that we were a “state within a state.” This is when Hoyte mentioned just what is the agreement between the government and Peoples Temple.

– There was a complaint about Peoples Temple getting GDF planes when the local hospitals can’t even do it. Simon was the one who reported this with Carmichael’s backup. Hoyte said he was going to go to Clarence Price and check it out. The situation was heightened when their own plane was late, and Teekah made the statement that “You better call Jim Jones and have him get the plane.”

– There were complaints about our boat from Carmichael and Gaskin. They said that our boat did not always stop at Norataria, and also that it stayed in the Kaituma River tonight time before it could dock at Kaituma (as if we had something to hide). Apparently Hoyte said that it seemed that immigration didn’t have full control over our boats (although I fail to see where immigration comes in – it seems to be would be transport and [illegible word] for customs that would be considered)

– Gaskin said that we have even gone through the US to get our GDF planes one night when you couldn’t get a hold of Georgetown. Hoyte said he was going to check out whether there were dangerous things going over the air and whether our radios should be prohibited or restricted.

– Wills said that Teekah was suspicious of the program, that it was “too good to be true.” He said Hoyte has the same attitude.

– In terms of Hoyte and Carmichael, Wills says that Carmichael is a climber, and will do what Hoyte asks.

– Wills said he told Hoyte that he should check in with Reid to see how far he can go with Peoples Temple.

– Wills said that Teekah would be sending in an officer to investigate the school, to look at its curriculum, report on its procedures, in order to regularize us with the rest of the Guyana schools (he did not say that they would stop the school – he was referring to regularizing in terms of curriculum, etc. Then again, he didn’t say that they wouldn’t stop our school.)

– He did not think Hoyte’s interference with the GDF planes would amount to anything. He said that Burnham keeps an iron grip on the Army etc., and no ministers are allowed to interfere with that.

– He suggested that we get together later to discuss the “pluses” of the school so we can present them in our dialogue with the officer. He also suggested that we write a letter to that effect to Teekah with copies to Hoyte and Reid, and with the letter marked like that

– he said again that our key is production and Dr. Reid’s protection. He said we are the best unit in production in the country.

– He suggested fitting our agricultural development into the agricultural development and needs of the country.

– He said that Reid is in attendance and all security meetings, and that if we are ever brought up in a critical way he backs us 150%.

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– He said we had a delicate problem in terms of integration into society. He said that the Amerindians in our area love Jonestown because it is much like Amerindian villages of old (though they didn’t have as much emphasis on agriculture). He said that he felt that Jonestown was moving away from integration. He said that people have the attitude that “this is the Northwest, that is Jonestown.” He said he meant by that that when you think of the Northwest, you think of Matthew’s Ridge, Port Kaituma, etc. as being part of that, but you think “there is the Northwest, and that is Jonestown.” (This bothered me because if Wills, who supposedly has some sympathies towards us, feels that we are not integrated, but what do people who say “government in a government, or “state within a state” feel?)

– He said the most hostile remarks you heard all day was from Teekah, when he said that “What is the authority for naming the place Jonestown?” He said that we should think out some sort of strategy for incorporation.

– Simon made a sarcastic comment to Hoyte that Wills was “one of the first citizens of Jonestown”

– Teekah was worried about the taking of pictures, and mentioned something about it. Hoyte told him that we would use them for our own propaganda purposes, and that is why he doesn’t stop at places.

– He said that a protégé of his, Greenridge, send an original meeting that the only healthy place in the Northwest (not in medical terms) was Jonestown. Hoyte was at the meeting were this point was brought up. Carmichael told Hoyte that we were good contributors to the PNC.

– Carmichael told Hoyte that Viola Burnham might be coming to Jonestown

– Wills suggested that our standards are high in terms of idealism, work ethic, etc. He thought we might integrate more at some functions, but didn’t think we should compromise our high standards (by drinking, fucking around, etc.)

– thought one suggestion for integrating was to manipulate the situation somehow so that officials in Kaituma asked us to help them with their agri program at the school, because it is not producing. He said that the school is Burnham’s pet project, and this would be a good move in terms of integration and PR.

– He said that Shahabadeen made no comments at all during this discussion

– he said that when the new budget comes out our position would be strengthened because it would be obvious that the only solution would be agri production, which is our strength. He even suggested that Reid and Kennard would be making a big pitch along those lines when the budget is released. Wills thought this would be a good time for us to move in terms of PR.

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WILLS around 20/2/78

– they are increasing his pension/ the govt is

– they took away his guard, his telephone, and house allowance

– Teekah dropped him at the gate at Jonestown/ before Teekah would have left Wills
with the car/ Wills had to go in by tractor (Wills was feeling very bad about his loss of stature)

– the Inspector was told to wait while our guard phoned in/ that made him mad/ Inspector Simon had to wait/ tho Wills knows that no police officer can come right in a place anyway

– Teekah said to Hoy it’s a “state within a state”

– Hoyt was incensed/ that is exactly what he can’t understand, this policy of Jonestown

– Hoyt wanted to know “What are the parameters or unwritten rules of Jonestown with
the govt.”

– Teekah consulted Hoyt/ Wills guessed Teekah went in to spy on Wills in Jonestown

– a Barbadian chap came in with Officer Simon

– Teekah inspected the school and reported to Hoyt that he had to get an official
???? (I’m not sure what word is missing there) to discuss curriculum and regularization under the Guyana Framework

– Teekah said “this place is too good to be true”/ Hoyt agreed/ Hoyt said he didn’t wish to get involved

– Hoyt is afraid of Reid and says it’s Reid’s policy (about Jonestown)

– if we develop our own school/ it’s a problem as it has been agreed that all schools have to be within the govt framework (agreed in Parliament)/

– Hoyt didn’t feel Reid would kick him for his letter because he felt on safe ground to attack our attitude when the govt has a medical facility/ Wills said this kind of
thing will happen again (we need to work out our press PR with an advisor such as was recommended by Hamalidan, see notes)

– Hoyt ordered Minister Field-Ridley to publish his letter/ she could have refused to publish / Wills doesn’t know if she consulted or not but a fight between Hoyt and Reid
could help her husband (and PT IS Reid’s baby)

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Wills cont

– Hoyt is still incensed, he is strongly nationalist / Hoyt had a prior argument relating to the autonomy of the University/ he said “we govern every square inch of Guyana” – Wills agreed with Hoyt on this matter

GUN BOAT

– allegations that it is supposed to stop and check in and it doesn’t always do so, sometimes the boat is alleged to stop outside of Port Kaituma to unload (Simon and Carmichael mentioned the above to Wills and Hoyt) – CARE, WE’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW THIS

– immigration doesn’t feel they have a tight hold on our boat

GDF PLANE

– we have access when the Mathews Ridge Hosp rings for a GDF they are told it’s not available, complaint that we get specialized treatment (this complaint comes from Mathews Ridge)

when the plane was late that Wills, Hoyt Teekah and Shahaharmadeen [Justice Minister Mohammed Shahabadeen] was on, Teekah made a joke “You better phone JJ and have him get a plane for you first”

HOYT: as relates to Carmichael:

– Carmichael is a climber / he is vaguely related to Wills

– Ministers are now resigning and Hoyt is Carmichael’s immediate boss/ Carmichael was not at the airport when Hoyt came in/ Hoy exploded that Carmichael should be there to meet him

– Carmichael will do whatever Hoyt says

– Gaskin said in our radio communications, we sometimes go thru the US and then relay thru Georgetown and then the reply comes thru the States (for a GDF plane arrangement) (by the way I think this is true but we shouldn’t admit it)

– Hoyt made a big thing about it/ Wills said “We do it too”/ Hoyt said he’d check on our radio and see if it is a dangerous thing or not or if he should prohibit it

– they all stayed at Guyana House (Wills, Hoyt, Shahabadeen, Teekah)

– Wills played Maciabelli [Machiavelli] he said “You should check with Reid to see how far you (HOYT) can go with PT”

– Hoyt said he’s going to Brigadier Price/ Price is afraid of Hoyt/ Price drinks a lot and he does stupid things/ like hobnobbing with the Venezuelans which was bad for Guyana as the Venezuelans could get more info than Guyana got

– Teekah crossed from the PPP/ Wills said he thinks no-one crosses over without CIA involvement / Teekah has 2 principles of survival, complete and blind loyalty to Burnham and he wants to prove a tough administrator and we’re in his way, our system is more sophisticated in education

– Wills said we should get permission for one of our teachers to rotate into the Guyana school to show integration

– Teekah will send an officer in to look at our program, will make a report and then decide

– Hoyt (as Regional Minister), Reid and ultimately the PM will be involved (re our school)

– Wills said re our school “don’t take the offensive, let them come to you”

– when they make an inspection we’ll have a right to speak, can send a memo to Teekah and mark a copy to Reid

– Reid didn’t want Teekah in the Party because he crossed the floors

– PM runs the GDF – Price is a “survivor” of the system/ but no plane goes into our area without the PM knowing about it/ no minister can interfere with the army / Burnham is Minister of Defense

– Hoyt is a controlling man/ he’s saying there is something that he can’t control (PT) and he’s mad about it

– he’s a CAESAR

– but there are so many plusses/ they can’t afford to do without our production

– Govt hot on black eye peas and chick peas as they have to import them (so we could grow them)

– Reid sits in on security conferences and we’re protected by him – he sits in on them all and protests if we are attacked/ says it’s a waste of time because we are producing

– integration in society is a delicate problem, we are known to be moving toward more isolation/ but the 60-70% Amer Indian population like us because the ancient Amer

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WILLS PG 3

Indian life style was in community / community togetherness

– the more we build a relationship with the community that will keep the officials quiet

– there still is a feeling of separateness even in Kaituma/ they say ’’this is the Northwest and there is Jonestown” like they are separate entities

– one of the crudest remarks teekah said was “What is the authority for naming the place Jonestown”, no-one said anything for or against PT / Wills said we have to think of some way to incorporate, it’s a matter of our right to name it vs the govt right to name it

– Simon said to Wills/ “Wills is the first citizen of Jonestown”/ Wills said “You’ve been there more than I” (Hoyt was present)

– Teekah was worried about pictures taken with JJ and Teekah/ Hoyt said to Teekah that it was for propaganda purposes/ Hoyt said “that’s why I don’t stop and go there”

– at a Regional Meeting in Matta kai?? a man Carl Grenich [starred remark, with notation at bottom of page: “We will contact him”] from Georgetown said that (when reports were being given) “the only healthy part is Jonestown” – because of its plans and progress (he’s with Radio Demarara, a young economist, up and coming )

Hoyt was there at the time/ Carl is one of Wills’ protégés

Carmichael said of PT that we were good contributors in the Regional conf, and they are going to take part

– Carmichael said that PT (Sharon Amos, he said) invited Viola [Burnham] to come to Jonestown and that Sharon Amos shook Reid’s hand (I guess he didn’t know about Tim)

– Wills realizes that our standards are high and we can’t compromise them

– Kaituma School (the PM’s big project) has the agricultural part of it a mile away, production hasn’t moved – it’s a multilateral school, social experiment, bearding school, idea to finance and feed people by production (it’s the PM’s big PR project)

– they are not doing well on it, defective chairs and they throw them out

– suggestion that we could invite Kaituma people to a cultural show in Jonestown/ maybe let a few of our men go to a dance in Kaituma

– Shahabadeen wanted advice from Wills (not re us), but Shahabadeen is a technocrat, very much afraid of failure/ wants to bring in Wills for advice

– said the time for us to maximize PR Is after the budget, NW has no leadership needs us -Wills said with surprise and warmth about JJ/ JJ wanted to demonstrate for me, he really means it (he meant JJ means it)

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WILLS 21/2/78

– Jackson is out of the country right now

– Shabadeen [Justice Minister Mohammed Shahabadeen] and Wills talked about laws / Wills thinks Shahabadeen wouldn’t want to offend PT and having PT make propaganda on the basis of bad laws in Guyana

– he said that unfortunately Guyana has a British system but. they have Guyanaized the British Court of Appeals so that is more flexible/ there are note illegitimate children in Guyana than legal children/ the Stoen case could create a new precedent in this matter – if you send John away you are admitting the other system (US) is better than the Guyanese

– Bishop is worrying about the political situation also / Barnwell is an old member of the Party, he is more influential even than Shahabadeen/ he’s a link between Burnham/ Wills told Barnwell to give us the arrest orders of JJ/ he said he’d think about it/ Wills trusts him. He’s afraid (Barnwell is) tho that if he gives us, the orders he might have problems/ he is worried he has to retain his own credibility

– Wills is still not worried about the Stoen case/ the orders are invalid because there wasn’t sufficient disclosure from Hughes and if Judge Bishop mentions this, that could keep him Bishop from looking bad in reversing his own decisions

– in regard to sending the House of Israel back to US/ Wills said he opposed it and Mingo supported him (the idea being that you wouldn’t want to send anyone back, especially black) to the US justice system

– Green isn’t pleased with Hoyt’s letter/ Cde. Hines told Wills that/ Hines likes PT / he visited with Dr. Baird

– Wills said they shouldn’t make any to do about our medical staff, they are certainly more qualified than is usual in the Interior which has been always served by unqualified people

EDUCATION

– it doesn’t do good to argue that guardianship cases shouldn’t go to schools other than on the project/ he said it’s the right of a govt. to insist on a child going to school. The criticism of the US wouldn’t affect that.

– he said he would suggest we make concessions such as assisting in formulation of the curriculum

– accept 1 or 2 teachers from the Guyana system/ or as an alternative offer to turn back the money sent for Grubbs as headmaster (if we do get sent the money)

– try to avoid schism of state in a state

– if the headmaster comes fine but if it’s ours, say the money will go to the Party

– if you say we need our high school students for production in the 1/2 day program, they could offer you free labor so we’re stuck (and they’d send spies) important to let people know of our research with soap / contact the Ministry of Research (Hoyt’s)

– on the other matter we can’t argue that our children should be in a separate system because of the disease or anything like that because they will argue ’’What’s good enough for Kaituma is good enough for your children”

– adaptability is the most convincing argument

– 70% Amer Indians in Guyana and Hoyt and Jack are the Ameri Indian specialists/ if the Amer Indians speak well of you that’s good/ he said while he was there 2 guys at the gate came asking for Patty (Amer Indians) and that’s good

– Amer Indians used to migrate to Venezuela and they had quite a security problem in that area because of ’’subversion” – he said that he never hears the Amer Indians speak for or against PT AND it would be better if he had heard more positive

– he said it wasn’t good we used to give food (I had mentioned how we used to help in that way) because the govt wax was getting them self-reliant in agriculture and it doesn’t help to give them food

– Green has been in contact with Wills because he found out Hoyt and Wills don’t get along

– re Jackie (wife of the new Foreign Minister Jackson)/ she had a thing going (sexual with Bunny), she would act like she likes us and even join us but would go back

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and tell everything to her husband

– she is English, young, interested in sociology and anthropology and is getting a degree right now

– she was with Cheddi, smokes dope, can ingratiate with you so you have to watch her

– Chief Justice Bollers is a fascist, made a Sir by the Queen, Burnham is trying to ease him out. Bishop would stand up against him if necessary in a decision

– maybe should bring in more Guyanese to our school

– he said that the Kaituma school is a pet of Burnham re experiment nature of it as it is a boarding school and is working to be self-sufficient in agriculture but it isn’t doing too well/ anything we can do to help them in agriculture without our volunteering/ we should get them to ask us/ we should help repair their seats/ when the benches and chairs were broken in the classroom, they’d put them aside instead of repairing them/ but it’s a pet of Burnham and whenever Teekah goes into the Northwest he knows he has to go out of his way to see the school and report back to Burnham because Burnham will ask him about it

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WILLS 24/2/78 (Marcie, Terri, Tim, Jocyln, Sharon)

– said the budget will be based on IMF projection

– he said that Yugoslavia to survive sold arms to Bautista / the problem for some is survival first, then ideology

– he said that you have to be self-sufficient in food, clothes, housing, have a lower consumer expectations

– he said (and I heard this mentioned before at the Georgetown conf.) that [Salvador] Allende went too far forward, too fast (that seems strange because it seems the opposite) Allende didn’t even have control of the radio stations which were all right wing and were firing left wingers, and he left people in office that later took over because they had the guns (military) and the govt, had no arms to fight back

– they need in Guyana, he said, to diversify agriculture, they need an injection of capital – with IMF you’re liable to an institution rather than to a country

– he said you can be an enemy to the US, the allies of Guyana will watch and if the US crushes Guyana, the US will lose friends

– he keeps claiming the Govt of Guyana is an oligarchy (a few at the top of govt)/ they are the initiators of policy and they control

– he said Burnham will never bow to the US

– he said the past constitution is irrelevant to modern Guyana and the new constitution is an attempt to help in that area (but when asked he wouldn’t give any details about it)

BARKER

– he said that it’s Burnham who runs the security

– he said Barker improves the crime rate because he locked up 1/2 of Georgetown on Xmas / and that was an incredibly stupid thing

– he said that Barker is a career policeman/ his father knew Burnham’s father

– but Barker’s being taken down a peg or two lately (he wouldn’t say how)

– he said that when he got his job, Barker made a “courtesy call” to all the ministers (Wills thought this was out of place)

– he said that Barker wants to be “outstanding”

– but Barker has to jump for Mingo/ he has no power, he’s a “reflected” official/ he could be switched in a minute

– Wills mentioned Sibny Hall where people could be locked up without trial

– when we mentioned that Tim [Stoen] was trying to use the PPP against PT as well as the right wing, he said if you could get proof, Burnham would see red

– when asked if he had seen Bishop yet, he said he hadn’t yet

RE BECOMING INCORPORATED – he said you can act more swiftly, can sue and be sued / you are not in an amorphous situation

– he said it was good we went to the Mathews Ridge Conf, we were highly visual and it was known we were there because the message came back to Wills

(Carmichael by the way is a relative of Wills tho Wills said they are not close)

– he said Cde. Sotrey (who has been friendly to us) is a bureaucrat (right wing)

– he said that things are happening fortunate for me (Bishop), he will be going back, he thinks, to the same status tho not necessarily in the same title of job

– he said that the PM misses his (Wills’) counsel, his “socialist council”

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TUESDAY 29/2/78 WILLS (Sharon and Tim)

– feels frustrated has to wait for a role. He can’t define it himself/ it’s going to be defined for him

– his mother always said he was altruistic, he always gave instead of took/ now he’s beginning to feel that you have to have a little selfishness

– Hoyt is girding up his loins/ he opened up the conference in the Northwest, said it was a testing time for PNC. Wills knew we were present at the PNC conf.

– he said people tell him everything now (tell Wills ) “Enemies try to win enemies”

– said when we were concerned about the article in the Santa Rosa Democrat and the effect on John “you are being edgy”

– said Hoyt thinks of himself as a Deputy – but this is his unofficial position – Wills said I was like a Jewish girlfriend he had once, I try to be logical and make inferences that would be logical but life isn’t logical but he said I was a good fighter for causes. If my cause is getting motorcycles, I don’t try to find out if motorcycles are the best thing for everyone, I just push on getting motorcycles.” (Wills always attacks me when I am probing him, he thinks it will put me on the offensive, but I usually eventually get back to the point anyway)

– he said that why JJ said about Hoyt spreading rumors, Wills heard the same thing from another source (that Hoyt was spreading that rumor about Wills)

– he said that Nationalism often hides under Stalinism/ he called Pinochet a Stalinist (Tim started to disagree with him, but I didn’t think it was wise because I was worried that that is a general PNC concern because they say Chile went too far, too fast etc.

– he needs hydrogen peroxide for pyrrhea / he doesn’t have it here

– he said that rumors are going around (Energy and Economic Ministers) and elsewhere that he’s drinking himself to death/ he said that he hasn’t been drinking at all and stopped smoking/ he said that someone told Jack that Wills had stopped smoking and drinking and Wills said “Don’t make me an idiot”

– he has to give up his special diplomatic passport,/Collins wrote to countries such as USSR, US, Cuba and said that Wills couldn’t be using a diplomatic passport

– he said that Collins also sent a copy to Wills of a letter from the Venezuelan Foreign Minister congratulating Jackson (Wills said he got an uncontrollable urge for revenge), he said if you don’t do something they will continue to erode your self-respect

– he said he Wills is in a moral crisis but he knows it’s wrong to want revenge, you should “forgive for what they do”, I said, wouldn’t Reid understand all this, he said “Reid’s too busy”

– he said that “Odo had to believe the others to create the constitutional crisis” but Odo would do what the Guyanese say “let the unfolding logic of events prove the point” (in other words let the events prove that Wills is needed in this position because the others Jackson can’t handle things)

– kt we questioned whether Burnham would sacrifice the country just to show that Wills was needed and Wills said, not exactly that

– he said that Jackson doesn’t  have the intellectual capacity to dominate the ambassadors like Wills does/ said that Mann found Wills to be his chief obstacle and wanted him out/ when I said “won’t the unfolding logic of events prove that Bunny is living high off the hog and won’t his life mess him up”, Wills said eventually that is true but Bunny plans to live high on the hog for about 3 years and then he’ll accept whatever happens/ he said Bunny works the “Rockefeller circuit”

– when Tim mentioned “benign dictatorship” that’s when Wills said that communism is the greatest danger to the establishment of socialism/ interestingly enough the Guyanese have even changed the words to “Arise you Prisoners of Oppression” so they show all the time they don’t want to be associated with International Communism

– when we said that Jagan wouldn’t attack PT because of Dr. Goodlett, he said that

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Jagan will attack first and explain later/ he will do anything he can  to benefit himself in local politics / Jagan owns the Guyana Import and Export Co. / he said certain countries push money thru that business (like USSR??) [handwritten marginal note: “GIMPEK on Regent Street”]

– Wills said that there are 3 men in govt that have charisma. Burnham, Jagan and Reid

– re rumor of the standoff by the press, Wills said he hadn’t heard of the rumor and he hadn’t heard of anyone standing up in Parliament re PT

–re Mohammul Hamuladan [Mohamed Hamaludin] and whether he has to toe the govt line, he said Mohammud has a little more latitude than the rest/ Mohammud is a Moslem, he’s PNC .

– he said that events are moving in Wills’ direction, Odo and Reid aren’t his problem and in regard to the rest, they are getting over the scandal

– he said that Rabbi Washington of the House of Israel came to see him. Rabbi was “saved” by Wills when he was going to be sent back to the US/ Green and Hoyt were against him and there was an order to throw him out but Wills rang Mingo (this sounds like Wills drama?? of hew he saved the world) and told Mingo that no-one should have to go back to an American jail and that saved him/ now the Rabbi has all kinds of temples and Washington tries to do whatever the govt says/ if he heard the govt was raising potatoes, he’d said we ought to raise potatoes

– re Barnewll, Wills said he’d ask him today about the case (he didn’t)

– Wills said our relationship with Wills helps him more than it does us as we go to party meetings and it shows Wills has his old associations

– he asked if people are still coming from the US, we said yes, he said growth is important/ he mentioned MIRV (Migration Revolution)

– for a minute he got teary eyed and said, “Maybe I ought to retreat at 49 years of age and join PT”, we said “sure”, but he said it would hurt us if he did

– he said Teekah calls PM more than anyone, he has a stupid power to please

– he said he would talk to Fred Case in the education office about us, Case is coming to see Wills and has power of initiative (I’ll have to ask Wills what happened with this)

– when asked if it would help if Viola Burnham visited us, he said it would help 80% (Burnham’s visit would help 100%, Viola and Burnham have a good relationship, she loves him and he allows him to make her own choices about her schedule and pretty much whom she sees/ he gave up a lot for her/ they were friends before he married/ he got a divorce, she waited for him/ also when he had a heart attack (after they were married, she was close by and was a comfort to him)

– he thought Burnham wouldn’t want to visit until after the case was settled

– regarding Sir Lionel (and why he’d want to fight for us when he’s so conservative, he said “Sir Lionel likes causes”

– Grant (the Ambassador to England) called when we were there, he took a chance Wills thought to tell Wills that Burnham can’t afford to let you go/ he also told Wills that Jack was the one who was to be chosen to replace Wills but Jack didn’t want the job because it he would receive disopprobrium taking Wills’ place and Wills thought Burnham didn’t want to totally give in to Wills’ enemies by putting Jack in

– he said he has had a death wish 3 times recently and it was only JJ who helped him/ something JJ had said would come back to Wills and pull him thru

– he said that a Surinam Patrol seized a Guyanese Fisherman’s Catch (this was in the Guyana Chronicle), he said that there was an issue with Surinam before Wills resigned and this indicates a breakdown since Wills was making some attempts to work out things with Surinam/ he said the PM of Surinam (Orin) had a heart attack, because he feared Wills’ resignation showed a tougher attitude on the part of Guyana (and that’s why Wills thinks they

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are an enduring people. We’ve saved Guyana from many of these mercy flights by using private flights and our boat, just last week took a mother and baby in from a neighboring community. If we had to have a lot of trips into Georgetown, we’d be in real trouble. Fortunately, our medical staff is very competent and they have taken care of more medical emergencies for our neighbors as well as our own community then we could enumerate.

Recently a woman needed emergency attention for a special urological ‘problem. It would have cost her life if it wasn’t possible to have an emergency flight. We don’t want to reflect on Brigadier Price or anyone in his department, They have even given up their own seats on the plane to accommodate emergency cases. In onecase seats were given up for an Amerindian woman and our doctor, who accompanied her into Georgetown. We just want you to know that this will drastically limit our services. There is a terrible strain on us when we are trying to be conscientious and respond to community needs for care. When there is an accident in the area, people are sure to come to us and if our medical staff couldn’t take care of it, it will be overwhelming to our conscience [crossed out end of sentence: “can’t call for a fight and help prevent death.”] We have, in the past, been able to offer this service. In fact, people in the neighboring communities were very grateful for the GDF planes and when they would complain about Mr. Hope and the level of medical care they received at Mathews Ridge Hospital, we would always point out the excellent public service of the GDF.

We would certainly do the best to continue treating people when they come to us even though we couldn’t fly them into George- town. But we even have a problem in this area because some of our specialized equipment is still in customs. This means that some types of specialized surgery is impossible for us to do if we don’t have the equipment. Even so, some very complicated feats have been undertaken, each time successfully, and our doctor consults with doctors on the medical net and Stateside and all over the world. They all speak highly of our doctor’s competence. Dr. Schact [Larry Schacht] never says a critical word on the medical net but only praises the medical! facilities here. These doctors on the medical net have gone to academies where they have had the best possible training so the consultation is very helpful.

It would be absolute chaos for Dr. Schacht to have to leave the area to train in Georgetown in terms of the press. We have to be sure we have a doctor here because of the concern and interest of people in the US, and because of those who have been critical in the past. Our doctor is qualifying himself every day and from what we have heard the area has always been served by paramedics so since he is more qualified, much more, than the average paramedic, what Is the problem? We have received no complaints from those he has treated. And those he has consulted with have praised his thoroughness. He will spend hours on the medical net. He is much needed from the standpoint of this community as well as the neighboring communities and he needs to be put in the position to be of benefit

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got tough, and seized the fishing catch

– he said that Barker was played up in the paper but had no real power

– he said that if they are laying off us press wise, it’s because the public image of the PNC is important in an election year/ he claimed that if they are taking a conscious decision about us that shows our importance (bullshit)

– we asked if it was felt it would annoy the US playing us up (and explained how actually the press was turning in the US, and all the good stuff QSL’s)/ he said the paper is most calculated to annoy the US, ‘they highlighted a Cuban official meeting with the PM and they show the British as racists in South Africa

INTERNAL QUESTION, he thought it was an internal question not an international one/ he said it might depend on what the PPP attitude is and the United Force attitude is/ it might benefit the PNC or it might be adverse depending on their attitudes. Maybe the viewpoint about PT is not crystalized.

if the PPP says PT is CIA that would be bad for the PNC / there is a fear of strangers all over, you have to work 10,000 times harder if you are a stranger

– so PNC plays it safe

– Hoyt is an aberration, acts alone but Hoyte and Teekah will do it again because we didn’t fight back/ beautiful opportunity to make ourself right within the regime

– US aid isn’t based on PT (internal issue)

WHEN WE mentioned the Stoen article in the ’’small” rag, and that Tim had said the Guyana govt was influenced by JJ, Wills said, “Beautiful” (beautiful that Guyana is influenced by J J)

– in regard to whether Burnham would be upset by this or not (the mention of Reid also) he said that Burnham’s mental processes are more grandiose than that/ he doesn’t care about the mention of Reid, “might as well be hung for a $1 than a 6 pence”

– we mentioned Tim trying to influence the judge by sending articles to him (He misunderstood and thought we were talking about us sending articles to him, maybe he heard about the articles going to the judge ??? but we said it wasn’t us, it was Tim Stoen), he said “you can’t send things to the judge without evidence, never send to the judge, but I didn’t hear you” (saying that if we were even proposing it he wouldn’t want to hear that)

– Wills said “my guess is that Tim would not be coming back” (I have to ask him what he meant by that

– he doesn’t feel Bishop would be influenced because of a small town in the US, and then said well maybe he would

– he said if you go to the press watch what they write (English Press), British press is only a little more objective than US

– maybe he said they are playing you down, you should lay off a bit to accommodate this

– when we pushed on the fact there was a stand off, he said “shit, things have changed since I left, right wing forces and my resignation, it all goes together, they gained a bigger victory than I thought,” (He acted incredulous)

– he said that in regards to Detente with the US, concessions were made by the USSR in W. Berlin and they got GDR in return, Maybe we are expendable (you are expendable he said), embarrassment to Carter,

– Carter has to woo weak Republicans to maintain his democratic hold

– Blacken wrote a letter to Wills / sympathy over his resignation (and visited him 3 times) – sone diplomats have avoided Wills. He said that during the time of Wills’ office, “Guyana consolidated its image as one of the most influential of the non-aligned nations.” said that Wills helped in the “good relations between US and Guyana” and I “could always talk to you even in prickly issues” (Wills said Blacken wrote when Burke was away in the US and that was significant, said however that the real enemy is a liberal do-gooder, you can always fight a Burke but you drop your guard with a Blacken

– he said you can’t go further than the govt, said you should go, you have to work to change the reality

– use our good links with the party without seeming to intrude, that they cannot help but publish

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good about Jonestown, left it to Reid/ people don’t know how to play it

– the PM and Reid allow each other their own expires/ PM’s is National service, Reid’s is us (?????)

– we talked about being more willing to die than give up John / he said, “Yes John is the unseen one in every conversation”,

he said this is an election year (we asked about the PM visiting), he said no one would go to the Northwest and not see PT/ we are the criteria for judgment in the NW. Burnham has to come to the NW anyway to meet the people

– I said that if the court decides against John, we’d have to assume that Reid and Burnham had a part in it also than if they haven’t declared their policy, I said 1000 would die then. (he said I shouldn’t say that)

– he said that Burnham has a favorite Daughter Anabella in England and if she had any problems, he Burnham would tear up the country

– Burnham is positive to us, he knows we participate in party affairs/ he knew through Wills that 1000 were ready to die (the crisis when we asked Wills to talk to Burnham)

– said the judge thinks he is writing the decisions for history (re when is the decision coming), he said he’s working on a case regarding Bookers right now

– Ramsaroop, is a Party Chairman, he is afraid of his own shadow/ he second guesses Burnham / Burnham is wicked at times, and is a good tactician/ will ask Ramsaroop what he thinks and after Ramsaroop gives an opinion Burnham will say he believes in the opposite which is to trick Ramsarroop

– when I asked him about it Alfreido (the administrator at the Cuban Embassy who said we should work in the US, or go back to the US, ask Paula,) Wills said he was the Cuban CIA, security

– he said that all diplomats (re Cuba and Russia) are afraid of “persona non grata”, they don’t know if we are in or out so don’t talk to us on an Ambassador level (that’s true because even when Timofeyev, the Vice-Counsel of USSR said the Ambassador would see Marcie, the Ambassador didn’t see her, he didn’t show for the appt, only Timofeyev was there, so they must not be sure how we are received here

– he said the Brazil, Yugoslavian Ambassadors won’t see him even though the Brazilian one lives up the street/ they think he’s persona non grata

– we said a paper in London might want to do an article on us but we weren’t sure which one as we didn’t have the name and did he know London papers/ he said the Manchester Guardian is the best/ the Sun and the Mirror are Tabloids, that are sensational / they “organize assassinations” (character assassinations of people)

– he said the Daily Telegraph is also bad

– he said Murdoch owns one of the sensational ones either the Sun or the Mirror

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WILLS (3/78)

– In regard to JJ coming in to town, if JJ comes to town, the opposition will or could object by saying there are warrants out for this man/ it would appear to be flaunting it

– he said to check with Mingo and see if the PNC could live with the opposition being bothered by it

– he said however that he realizes that Mingo is very busy with the election referendum because Mingo handles that

– he said that the PNC needs our project

IMF:

– he said they were already here and found the country full of corruption and larceny and they are playing tough/ he doesn’t think they will help

RE CHINESE AID

– he said the Chinese are turning inward and he doesn’t think they will help

– he hadn’t heard anything about the case

– he said if JJ did come in to town and anything developed, J could go right back as it takes time to serve someone with papers anyway

– he said that JJ should have an unpredictable schedule/ make appointments and then switch them at the last minute

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CONVERSATION WITH FRED WILLS 4/3/78

– he was asked if he thought there was a standoff in the government, he said it was a power play directed towards Reid and Mingo but wouldn’t tell us when we asked him who told him or who was involved

– he said that he was good at drawing inferences and Burnham always told him that he was good at that

– when asked if Hoyte is in number 3 position re govt, he said that Hoyte thinks he is in #3 position and that Hoyte sits in the number 3 chair in Parliament, after Burnham and Reid, then comes Green

– Wills said that kind of thing is ridiculous and he, Wills, always took the last seat

Conversation with Fred Wills, 5/3/78 (this was the day that I got the Cuban doctor and brought him to Wills’ house)

(Wills has Crohn’s disease/the doctor recommends his taking cortisone for the rest of his life/ Alvio Freea, the Cuban doctor said that Wills’ body is rejecting his intestine, that’s why he isn’t getting the nutrition from his food. Alvio will take an x-ray on Monday and see if there is anything else. Wills also has 2 hernias that may need to be operated upon.)

– when I went back to see Wills that evening I asked him if he had talked to the registrar Barnwell, he said he hadn’t yet – I asked if K he could do so – and he said he would / I told him that it is very agonizing for Jim to be held in this kind of limbo

– he was very positive about PT and all it’s doing, said someone, even him should write a book, as JJ’s dreams are possible because they are totally based on reality, yet he knows we’ve been to the abyss (close to death) many times so we know that experience well

– I asked why Cuba and USSR weren’t visiting us/ he said it’s not appropriate right now for Ambassadors and Embassy’s to leave Georgetown until around March 15th?? or so because of the new budget, it would be considered taking a side trip to leave right now

– also, he said that these Embassy’s want to know if a person is ’’persona non grata” or not/ they would want to know officially/ I said that they had official permission (from him and Mingo I thought), he said that they were asking casually but would want to inquire formally.

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D-1-J-18 (2)

EDUCATIONAL MATTERS

This next week, an educational committee will becoming to inspect our schools. We have not been informed as to be nature of their inspection and would like this clarified.

We are always glad to expose people to our community. However, our community must remain intact. The pressures of adaption that our youth would have would completely hamper the project. They come from alienated environments, and we have come to understand their frustration and needs. The legal arrangements made with the familys was that the children would live on the project and be educated there as well. (At the time these arrangements were made we had been told we could have our own school. To move these children now would disrupt our community, create legal problems with the parents and be a potential source of copy for the reactionaries press. An arrangement could be a made whereby our school would be an extension of the Port Kaituma school. We were originally told by several people that this would happen. We have several qualified teachers with administrative licenses who are qualified to administer school. We would most definitely turn all pay checks over to the government. As far as health factors go we would have no objection to facing the same conditions as every other Guyanese but our legal situation is a very real issue., and if the children get any illness it could have dire effects in the media if they get hold of it. Those in the administration (mataki) who visited last Monday came and observed us teaching the children including one highly competent black woman in our integrated staff teaching the children the difference between the PPP and the PNC. We naturally are anxious to follow the educational guidelines from curriculum established by the government. We want the project to be a positive reflection upon the goals of Guyana. Indeed, visitors who come are impressed-, and we never fail to c credit Guyana. Most recently Mrs. Carmichael dropped by with two women. She was taking on a tour of the area. Mrs. Adrian Thompson, who said it was ’’stupendous” and an education. Mrs. Davis, who said she “felt very much at home.” We hope to continue to be a credit to Guyana and we trust that some arrangement may be worked out regarding the school that will be mutually beneficial as we also hope something will be worked out about our doctor and medical program.

OVERHEARD CONVERSATION

More than one person a smart remark ’’they will take care of those Jonestown yankees”. This was very painful coming from high sources. It is very painful for us to overhear this kind of thing being said. How would, they react if the shoe was on the other foot. I can’t imagine they would want us to be taken over by the Venezuelans.

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D-1-J-17 (3)

WILLS 8/3/78

– Pat Small used to be friendly with the Venezuelan Ambassador/ she’s friendly also with the Soviets and 2 Cubans (they like her Wills says because she leaks info)

– Radio Antilles is CIA backed/ owned by Siftin Ebert

JANET JAGAN

– she called Wills while we were there, he said that she called to tell him that a woman he met in Africa had sent him a letter that was very warm and had to do with appreciation for what he had done (there was a letter in the PNC paper from a woman in Africa which would be the same one)

– she inquired what his plans were

– Wills said this was a trip either way he answered because just the fact she called him, compromises him

– but he said he’ll give her a mark for winning that round and he’ll invite Blacken over (and that will cancel this out and remove suspicion),

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D-1-J-17 (2)

WILLS 8/3/78 [March 8, 1978] cont

– Pat Small or Jennifer could be manipulated by someone else or by us

– but she might also be able to manipulate Carl Blackmon to get him to let her use his column to write about us (as Carl probably would like to screw Jennifer)

– we mentioned that Jennefer said George Luna (Prinsa Latina) was one of her boyfriends)/ Wills said Luna is Cuban Intelligence (as well as a writer) and probably gets info out of her

– when asked why Jennefer would want to write about us, Wills said “you’re a going thing in town”

– he said the Smalls are name droppers

– Antilles is embarrassing to PNC/ PNC traumatic now about Radio Antilles/ Wills said “don’t be around it”

– Smalls will love PT and then later figure how to use you

– politics of the Smalls are PNC but they will ”go where the soup kitchen is”

– BURNHAM

– Wills said Burnham is shy and has to be pushed to get up to speak but he acts brash sometimes as a defense mechanism

HOYTE : Wills said he loves power/ said Hoyte wouldn’t attack us if he knew we were on his side

WILLS AND HIS JOB POSSIBILITIES

– he said the knows there is a meeting tonight (a big one) about him and he wasn’t invited to come tho he was supposed to come

BARNEWELL.

– will call Barnwell today, wants to let Barnwell settle down

JENNEFER SMALL VISITING JONESTOWN

– she’s very bourgeosie (her house is quite fancy) and Wills and I both thought she wouldn’t like the cottages and the simple life style/ she’s totally superficial

– if Jennefer did put a documentary on Radio Antilles, the other papers will raise the issue of why it wasn’t in the Chronicle/ so they’ll pick up the story like “chasing the asses’ tail”

TO GET HER OFF OUR BACK

– tell her that Wills is our legal advisor and info, has to pass thru him, (on PR), then let Wills handle it

– Jennefer would sell herself to the highest bidder including Tim Stoen

RADIO SHOW (Negative one that she told us about)

– he said that Jennefer was lying he thinks, she’s telling a rumor, it’s a gimmick to convince us that we need propaganda so she can do the story/ she is desperate for money

– ANTILLES RADIO IS CIA backed

[Scribbled out note at bottom of page]

FRIDAY WRSM MEETING (OPENING) with PM and Chairman Viola Burnham (Sharon, Karen, Joe)

– we have Deon in our midst

– East, good news

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D-1-J-16 (1)

Mon, March 20

Mario

it was discussed about actively in WRSM & PNC. It was discussed and big meeting this weekend of involvement, dedication, and commitment.

Louie asked Benson [Burnham] what was position toward us. Vincent said it was a green light for custody case and arrest orders in our favor. The top 5 people are aware of the decision. Wills talked to B directly. In re: Louie, he will carry out whatever decisions are made, even more when he disagrees. Hoyte goes straight down the line for B.

Wills said it was a complete victory but he didn’t think we should push: (bec. of financial situation)

1) Dr. Baker should be allowed to see Alice and find out results, however, Baker was said he will not be allowed.

2) he said Jim should not come to town before decision comes down because it will look like rules was bent in J’s favor

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D-1-J-16 (2)

1. has done a couple of things to irritate IMF. He will be visiting USSR soon. In April – a tentative date. Even though financial situation, B. made a strong socialist speech. Wills didn’t feel we should have Jim go into town because of Guyana’s need for money.

Ann & Thomas asked if money was ever paid to judges like Bishop. He said he would talk to Reid tomorrow. He said he would talk to Reid & push on this decision coming down soon.

He said Reid did something wonderful for Wills.

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D-1-I-19 (1)

 3) FRED WILLS: visited by Sharon, Tim, Deb,… Wills said Hoyte complained he didn’t know what the policy was towards PT so Burnham made a decision; PM set the green light policy on PT. Wills said Bishop as the word not only in the arrest charges, the decision is to go to Peoples Temple. He said the source is Bishop. He said the Home Affairs Minister was told not to allow them to land, source, Home Affairs.

[handwritten notation] March 22 Deborah Touchette

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D-1-I-19 (2)

Wills added, “I think it’s a wrong decision, let them come hear the decision and let them get out of Guyana. Sharon told him if the Stoens come they would circulate lies and cause trouble. Why did he feel this way? He said Guyana [is] going to the IMF for money? with an idiot in the White House, it’s a complete victory for Jim Jones and I agree. When asked where he got his information, Wills replied, I’ve said all I’m going to say, it’s a top source. He wouldn’t say who. Sharon asked is it Mingo? He wouldn’t say. Wills said Hoyte is a team man, a nationalist team man old school type. He feels he has an obligation to be more thorough in following up with situations when he was once against a decision then changed. Wilson said we should check with Mingo about Jim coming to town. Tentatively Burnham is going to visit the Soviet Union. You have to give to get.

Economic Issue: Guyana government discussions to approach the IMF for a loan. The IMF is controlled by Rockefeller. If you upset the IMF you won’t get a loan. He said, “you have given a decision in favor of the PT in the Stoen decision. This is bad enough, but then to… Sharon asked when the decision comes out? Wills said Sunday night, but he had known Sunday morning. He said Bishop was asked to speak to him by the top. He said he was in the middle, he knew most about the whole issue. Wills said the best solution is to give the decision, then let Jim come to town. I don’t agree with their decision, but they’re probably right. He will speak to Reid tomorrow, asked us to speak to Mingo.  Asked Wills to speak to Dr. Reid and ask for assurances when Jim comes to town. Wills said the IMF would say that they had bent the law for Jim Jones. He couldn’t give us the answer when the decision would be made. He said he harassed in asking. Bishop said he was busy, Wills thinks he’s finding excuses of routine. He thinks he’s writing a jurisdictional masterpiece. Bishop said he wanted to sit down one weekend and write. Sharon asked if there was any indication of his feelings in this matter and his tone of voice. Wills said no tone of voice would give indication. Wills said this is a case where a decision was made above his head. Wills said Bishop claimed he didn’t know of any such case (ref. to custody issue) he had been in the bar since “68” and this had not happened. Lawyers have been known to do this (ref. in taking time to write) Wills said, “Burnham took a decision.” Sharon asked, “did you talk to Burnham?” Wills, “Yes I did,” “I didn’t say I talked to him about that! Wills said I was together tonight (ref.to Deb.T.) Sharon answered, “she’s always together.” Wills said, “No she’s not.” I remember when Prokes was going mad, and Anita could kill… Sharon asked him to ask Dr. Reid if the decision would be hurried (ref. to PM being brought up in parliament) Wills said the situation started with him, then Hoyte’s letter, then the GDF, he didn’t think Reid knew the case was prolonged. Wills said “They’re busy men.” Sharon had asked what caused the catalyst? Wills said, they all met at Sophia and her name was mentioned, party reports mentioned us, and the WRSM too, for our participation and dedication. Wills said he didn’t see the report. Wills said GDF prompted Hoyte to ask. He thought they played tough for a while then change. (ref to charge of mercy flight). Some politicians find it tough to say they’re wrong, I’ve done that. Wills asked to see the GDF bill tomorrow. He said the GDF

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D-1-I-19 (3)

comes under the Prime Minister, Ministry of Defense, Barbados praised Wills in their paper, these days when somebody praised you, you’ve got to be careful, Wills said.

Larry Schacht: Sharon brought Wills of to date on the situation with Larry, and mentioned conversation with Minister Mingo in regards to people having to go without medical care while Larry followed the rules… Wills said Hamilton Green wouldn’t let that happen. He said he saw Charles Hines nearly every day. (Permanent Secretary) (Ministry of Health)

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D-1-J-4 (1) – J-4 (3)

[These pages duplicate D-1-I-19 (1) – I-19 (3)]

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D-1-J-8 (1) – J-8 (9)

[Editor’s note: A more complete version of this memo appears at BB-2-zzz-1 – zzz-7.]

[Editor’s note: A redated version of this memo appears at D-1-J-8 (1) – J-8 (9).]

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D-1-J-14

Radio

ANN, THOMAS, LUCY

Marie, Thursday March 23

Last night Morgan visited Mario for 3 reasons:

1. He’s very busy and asked Mario to write his report for him about John. He wanted it by Wed.
2. He was upset because Clarke had approached him because he had already gotten directions form Burnham on what to do. He didn’t appreciate Clarke’s methods (pressure).
3. Bishop had a project he was working on west of here. When he got to this place there was letter waiting for him with information about Baker in it. He said his wife also received the same kind of thing. He did not like that. Wills said that this will not upset his report but he advised us to get to Clarke and tell him to cool it.

Mario is talking to Morgan tonight. Mario is telling Morgan he will write the report and also the time frame. We met with hostility when we first got there, because he didn’t get his newspaper back. He explained later he was frustrated at not being able to get in touch with us. He also said that at first he believed what Morgan said that we had done this and they had to get nose to nose and eyeball to eyeball and back him down, Mario attacked Ann. He said Morgan mentioned Ann, Paula, and Lucy’s name. Mario believed at first that Ann was the one responsible for these letters. He tried to appeal to Tim to attack Ann and Tim came on very strong and he knew what Mario was and doing and Ann didn’t do it.

He advised us that [Lionel] Luckhoo should make it clear to Morgan that his good friends had nothing to do with those letters. That should be done when the talk is given in the courtroom. Mario feels Morgan will bring it up and should be prepared.

Apparently Morgan with Timothy don’t get along well.

He said if I write it, that means we’ll write it.

Tell him that we are going to do something special for you after the surgery.

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D-1-J-15

[Editor’s note: While undated, this memo likely was written in January 1978, as notes in preparation for D-1-J-13.]

– Wills was surprised about the cost of Luckhoo’s fee, said he’d talk to J about that and that shouldn’t be

– Wills told us he has praised our production and has talked to Hoyte and others complimentarily about us

– he does have a problem tho this election year, Have to fight the main enemies first (Jagan)

– in regard to Jagan, he said Jagan’s son offered to fight in the Vietnam war

– he said he couldn’t tell us how many cases (regarding custodies) would take to make a quantum, it would depend how the majority of the government felt

– he thinks Mann is a CIA, says he is the most unsatisfactory ambassador they have, he likes the high life

– Burnham and Wills select the ambassadors, Bunny tried last year to get rid of Wills

– they went to the same school and were made ambassadors at the same time, but Wills the most junior was selected to be foreign minister by Burnham, and this caused local problems

– Wills transferred Bunny from Brussels to Washington and Wills admits this was a great mistake

– Mann made a report to Wills about us after talking to Mazor

– Burnham has seen thru Mann now also and there will be a meeting on the 16th and “things will happen”

– Mann has complained about Wills and his way of handling PT (when Wills took our part)

– Wills said that Mann has a busted lip now and Wills knows that some husband busted him

– he seemed surprised when we told him that Mann had arranged street fights in Guyana

– Bunny started off in Jagan’s party and then moved right across into the PNC (which Wills thought was significant)

– Bunny said he was going to California to look into low-cost housing but Wills knew he was going to check out PT, said he had instructions to look into housing, but Wills checked on him and found he Bunny had checked in as Mr & Mrs Mann, took a woman, ditched her found another women in Calif.

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D-1-I-20 (1) – 20 (2)

[Editor’s note: A copy of this memo – without the black-out names of the recipients – appears at D-1-J-7 (1) – J-7 (2)]

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D-1-J-7 (1) – J-7 (2)

[Editor’s note: This memo is a duplicate of D-1-I-20 (1) – I-20 (2)]

DEBORAH TOUCHETTE

MARCH 24, 1978

NOTES TAKEN FROM APPTS

W/THE FOLLOWING:

FRED WILLS

MONITARY INFORMATION:

1. A) GUYANA CO-OP BANK
2. B) BANK OF GUYANA

RUSSIAN EMBASSY

GENERAL REPORT:

1. GTOWN HOUSEHOLD
2. B) ONE-TO-ONE CONTACTS

1)      FRED WILLS visited by, Sharon A., Deb. T., Tim C….

Fred called on the phone and was very upset that a newspaper he loaned Sharon and myself had not been returned the very next morning. Tim Carter was talking to him and handed me the phone. I explained that neither Sheen or I understood he had to have it in the a.m. or we would have returned it. I said we would bring it over just now. Wills hung up the phone without saying anything…We took the paper right over, re-explained and appologised. Wills was hostile and said he made it perfectly clear. We were inhuman, and what we had done was unforgivable. He said the top had given him that paper to do some work on. He had been trying to get ahold of us all day, made several calls to the house but we didn’t respond, (no one told us Wills had called, Rhonda [Fortson] had received the calls) This became a very hot arguement, we were all yelling at Wills, he was yelling at us and tried to get Tim Carter to side with him against Sharon and myself. This was all taking place as we sat in chairs on his front porch. Sharon suggested we give Wills the two books he had loaned us and anything else he sight have loaned us and never borrow from him again if he was going to have that type of attitude about it. Wills said to keep the books, he was not really so upset about the newspaper, but that Bishop had met him at the club last night and said he had been flooded with material from the Peoples Temple. Bishop said he was being extra lobbyed, he said he was confused. Wills said it was using political offense to try to influence the Judge. “If you’re still looking for J. T. Clarke as a man of influence… the man is a whore, for a man or a woman for eighty-four years,” Wills said. He said, “Don’t tell Luckhoo I saw the judge, but you should got a hold of Jim, tell him. He said Bishop mentioned Sharon Amos & Paula Adams names. Sharon asked if he mentioned anyone else. He said yes, Deborah Touchette. Bishop said he wants to call this case up on Wednesday and complained of being lobbied. Wills said to tell J.T. to stay out of it. Luckhoo has to tell the Judge his people are not doing it, (ref. to P.T. not sending material) Wills said we should make it clear that J.T. is not to speak to Bishop. Wills said he hoped to write the decission. He said Bishop had approched him at his home.Wills said to let J.T. know that the judge through channels complained that he is lobbying. “Bishop has asked me to write the decission,” Wills said. Clarke fought in the first world war, he’s caught up with a few girls… Eric Clarke is a good friend w/Burnham, J.T. may do evil while trying to do good. Fred said we should see J.T., tell him we had a chat with a friend who knows the judge, that complained you showed the file marked Jim Jones to the Judge. Wills said we should see him before Monday to see if the date of the decission will be Wednesday. He said he would know tonight how much work is involved. There might be a precedent for this case as in other cases,” he said.

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D-1-J-7 (2)

Wills made a comment that neither Sharon or I caught. Sharon asked him to repeat it, and Tim tried to answer for him, (as he often does.) Sharon said, “I didn’t ask you Tim.” Wills replyed, “I wouldn’t take that Tim.” Sharon said, “Well, I wasn’t asking Tim, I was asking you.” Wills got emotional with hostility, shuffeled about in his seat and said, “I wouldn’t take that from anybody.” Tim said Sharon was right in what she did.” Tim told Wills that he was being divisive between himself (meaning Tim) and Sharon & Deb. Wills agreed that he was. Tim said that was not right and he wasn’t going to go for it, and totally agreed with everything Sharon said. Somewhere, in the midst of this, Wills told Sharon, “Somewhere in your life, a man has ruined a good woman.” Sharon said, “that’s not fair, I don’t deserve that type of treatment. You know Fred, you should remember who your friends are. It was I who brought you a doctor when you needed one.” We bring you ice cream, or anything else you’ve asked for.” Wills backed off by saying… and you know you girls brought me ice cream, I had a little bit, and after I left the kids ate it all up. When I got back l wanted some more and there was none left. Wills said he was hostile. He thought we had sent the papers. “Make sure it’s not one of us,” he said. Tim told him that Luckhoo had gotten calls from the Pegasus and the Tower Hotel’s, and those were places that Steen had stayed and swam, and he felt it was a destructive move on the part of our enemies. Tim said It could be someone acting for Stoen, like [Stoen attorney Jeffrey] Haas, or just someone that didn’t like us here and was aware of the case. Sharon and I reassured him many times over we knew nothing of this. Wills said that papers campaigning Jones were waiting for him when he reached the Essequibo, (Bishop went to Essequibo for a trial) Bishop told Wills that even his wife had received papers regarding Jim Jones. Wills said Bishop called Sharon’s name, and he (Wills) thought Sharon was behind the campaign. Wills said, “Bishop doesn’t have confidence in his own legal knowledge. Tim said to Wills, I have to tell you this becauseit’s bothering me. It really upsets me that when you hear things about us, that are negative, you believe them before you even talk to us to find out if it’s true. But if we had believed everything we hear about you and Guyana, even before we came over here…Wills said he knew it was wrong but he felt we might have done it in attempt to better our stand, when in fact we could destroy it. I said, “well we listen to your advise, that’s why we come to you, but you should know enough about us by now to know that we would know that that is strategically unwise. Tim made a comment of agreement and Wills agreed he was wrong. Wills said he liked to get things out in the open and clear the air. Wills told me Bishop had asked him to write the decission because he was too busy. Wills said, “you know what I think? I think he got orders to give a decIssion in favor ofJ Jim Jones but he doesn’t have the balls to do it. I think Luckhoo is right.” He said Bishop giving it to him because he can do it better, is an excuse.

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D-1-I-4

Sharon Amos

Wills (Sharon, Debbie [Touchette], Mike [Prokes])

CHINA

– Wills suggests we invite the Chinese to visit Jonestown after a couple of weeks (since the Russians just came, let them forget it)/ [Deputy Prime Minister Ptolemy] Reid prefers China to Russia

– Reid prefers them not only because they gave aid but for other pragmatic reasons as well/ for instance the Chinese when they do a project here have a ’’scrupulous regard for national customs” – they don’t make “outlandish requests” (for instance the Soviets in Yugoslavia asked for salaries they were used to in Russia which was too much to ask

– the Chinese don’t expect to stay at the Pegasus but will stay 9 to a dormitory

– also China has more understanding of a developing nation and will help you [illegible word] for “intermediate industries” like textile mills, cotton gins etc.

RE National Development (Debbie and I working on that committee)

– he mentioned again us checking with Mingo (to go to Reid) about this

EMBASSIES

– he said that the Soviet Embassy has a staff (not counting wives) of 24

– he says the reason they have 24 is that’s the number of staff of the Amer. embassy

– the Cuban Embassy has the most (120) the last time Wills counted then

– Russians have servants In their houses in Georgetown but Wills said it is an excuse to have extra KGB/ for instance their chauffeurs are KGB and when he had dinner at the Russians he noticed that the man serving dinner had a gun (so he knew he was no mere servant)

– he said that the cook can throw several people (karate or whatever she uses) and all the people around can defend the Ambassador etc.

– re: who will be the next from the Russian Embassy that would visit, he said probably the 1st secretary Caval (Caval he said is the cleverest of them all at the Embassy)

Cubans:

– he said that the Cubans won’t come until they find out what the opinion of the USSR is about their trip to Jonestown/ they rely on aid from the USSR so they would take the second position on things and let USSR go first

– they will come he said if the report is favorable

– the Cubans would have more interest in us in a sense and that is that they would see us as a Latin American progressive force (the Marxist-Leninist principles ‘4 principles’ includes that you work with progressive forces wherever they are)

– Cubans might use us as a multi-racial example of socialism

– he even thought Cuba might invite some of us to Cuba eventually

RE NORTH KOREA (by the way you don’t refer to No. Korea as North Korea – you have to call it the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea as we made the mistake of writing North Korea on a letter to them (to go to their Prime Minister for his birthday greeting) and they called us and asked that we change it as they said that only imperialists refer to them as No. Korea) so we changed it (after apologizing profusely)

– anyway Guyana got So. Korea rejected when she attempted to be part of the non-aligned movement in 1975 (August), Lima Peru and at that time No. Korea was accepted (Wills said he was there to accomplish this) – he said it was the same time as the coup-de-etat in Lima, Peru and the president that said goodbye was not the president that greeted them

– he said that Jamaica and East Germany have semi-Embassy’s here in Georgetown (only

1 representative)

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D-1-I-17

APRIL
DEBORAH TOUCHETTE

FRED WILLS
APPT. W/ MIKE PROKES
SHARON AMOS
DEBORAH TOUCHETTE

– He asked if we knew there were Soviets asking for asylum in New York?

– We asked if he had heard about the decision?

– He said if the judge makes a decision not in our favor, in most cases it’s an automatic stay with an appeal, it centers around liberty.

– He said Lionel [Luckhoo]’s going to be the elections commissioner, he’s going to take my place

– He said he talked to Hammie [Hamilton] Green, he was trying to talk to Hines, his permanent secretary.

– We told him about our meeting with the board (medical staff)

– He said there was a competitiveness between petty bourgeoisie in relations to standards

– said his opinion was, If we don’t let guys like you do it (Larry [Schacht]), will extend ourselves too much.

– He said there was a situation with the Cuban doctors in Jamaica.

– The middle class and right wing, with a shortage of personal [personnel], they are complaining and taking it out on the Cuban doctors and [Jamaica Prime Minister Michael] Manley found it necessary to investigate the situation and found out otherwise.

– He said that PT was suffering from Cubanism (ref. to Guy. doctors treating us the same way –

– He suggested what they might do is send up a Cuban doctor with an interpreter and the guy will be nervous for a while because all Cubans are afraid of the US because of the trauma in the past.

– He said are two strongest points of the agricultural and the medical

– said Barker was a distant cousin of the Prime Minister

– He told us of the situation where Barker and McClean (National Service) and some others were trying to get this guy to make a confession, they put an explosive up next to his scrotum and the explosive went off and blew his scrotum to hell. There was a bet that it wouldn’t reach the courts.

– Sharon mentioned the situation that had happened before when the PM and Dr. Reid and others had left the country (Jim being set up) and asked if it could happen again?

– Wills said it was possible that the situation can happen in the PM’s absence, but didn’t think it would be possible.

– He said Mingo was making decisions in Hoyte’s place, while Hoyte is out of the country.

– Sharon told him of our involvement in the PNC, and being asked to participate in the May Day discussions etc.

– He said, that type of decision you don’t move on until Reid comes out gives us the [illegible word]

– He asked if Williams asked us?

– Sharon said he had.

– He said Williams was a new guy, we should get Reid to say yes if it’s gone that high.

– He said the IMF loan would not affect us, definitely not.

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D-1-I-18

APRIL
DEBORAH TOUCHETTE

FRED WILLS
APPT. W/ SHARON AMOS
MIKE PROKES
DEBORAH TOUCHETTE

 – We told him about our meeting with Barker this morning and his response to the Oliver situation.

– He said Barker locked up half of Georgetown and said the crime was way down.

– He said Barker has a daughter, she ran away with sore guy because and didn’t want to see hie again

– He said Barker was just as stuanch in his hone as he eas in his work, he was very religious, would’nt let his daughter go out, he wanted to be able to pick the husband she had.

– Mills said Barker has come to him asking that he help to strengthen ties between him and his daughter.

– although she didn’t live very far away from him she wouldn’t let him set foot in her front door.

– He said Barker was responsible for pulling the guards from his hone and he called Mingo and said, “What the hell is this, I’m not less vulnerable now.”

– (ref. to Stoen issue), he said the validity of the arrest is what’s really before the court, He’s worried about saying his orders are good or bad. If he says the orders are good, he has to arrest Jim Jones. Said Joyce is joined because of the custody consent, said the legal document is claimed to be in her name.

– Sharon told hism about the people getting together in the US and talking of sending merceneries to kidnap the children.

– She said they just couldn’t handel that.

– He asked what percentage of these are over eighteen, under eighteen? he asked us to find out for him, he mentioned something about making sure the people who are questioned are over the age of eighteen

– Sharon asked if he thought the country was going to go right er left?

– Wills said she had a one track mind. You’re quite right looking at the main stream, the country’ is going more anti-U.S. All those who are in Cabinet will go with Burnham, they can’t face the masses

– Burnham can always whip up a campaign.

– He still says tides are running our way, mentioned we had an article in the papers.

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[Editor’s note: This memo also appears here.]

FRED WILLS
VISITED BY:
Deborah T.
Sharon A.
Tim C. [Carter]

[Notes written by] DEBORAH TOUCHETTE
APRIL

-Wills said [Judge Aubrey] Bishop didn’t come to see him last night, said Bishop was going through a truma [trauma], giving Wills a cold shoulder before, but this time he took initiative to see Wills. Wills said he would think about it.

-Tim asked if Bishop had gone to someone else? Wills said “no”.

-Wills-He will not change unless there are new facts.

-Tim asked if the decission had been changed?

-Wills said he didn’t know, said Stanley Moore is a right winger, he speaks socialism, but hes no socialist (broadcaster & Lawyer) [illegible word] analysis of Cricket on GBC, Wills will contact him

-Wills said Moore will accompany him to see Bishop.

-said Moore is best friend of Rex McCay [Guyana attorney Rex McKay] and Rex’s friend is Bonnie Mann [Guyana Ambassador to US, Laurence “Bunny” Mann] . Said he didn’t know all of Moores views

-Wills-I’ve been thinking of what Bishop said, I believe he received material on PT here  and the Essequibo, and J.T. Clarke went to see him. I cannot prove

-J.T.Clarke sent the liturture. The basic problem is what prompted Bishop to do what he did?

-Bishop said forget the conversation, to Wills on the phone. Wills felt the key to this was J.T. Clarke. “If I’m proven wrong, don’t hold it against me”, he said.

-Wills-Somethingabout J.T. Clarke has bugged me since he seen me.

-said he was being given instructions to write the decission a certin way, he wants to salvage his conscious that someone write it.

-Wills-If Burnham told him to write, and he did tell him, it’s going to get out that he cannot take a direct order. He doesn’t want to obey the order.

-Wills would write the decission, Bishop would just sign. He would be in trouble not me.

-Sharon-It [w]ouldn’t be known?

-Wills-This has happened before and the Judge signs the decission

-none of us know what J.T. Clarke has done. Bishop made a mistake, stuck his neck out, quite apart from fatherly affection, I’ve got a whip on him now.

-The man came to me, “look man, I want you to write the decission, have it ready by Wednesday”. He got material, he blames P.T. The boys in the club saw him come, saw himask for me, told me to come over aside and permanent secretaries ect. saw this.

-If Bishop postpones his decission, theres an order of arrest for Jim Jones. Hass [Stoens’ American attorney Jeff Haas] & the Embassy, and all types of people. The point is, orders are there and Jim’s in town working around…I’ts Shabadeen’s baby, the key is Dr.Reid get a clearance of Mingo befor the man comes to town.

-Sharon-Hughs can make a noise?

-Wills-It’s possible, anyone can go to court and get the arrest order served?

-Barnwell wouldn’t do that though, he’s got the word no, Wills said, He’s done that beautifully for years. [First name illegible] Green got him on the CCW thing (Clerical & Commercial Workers Union) Ref to Barnwell.

-Willssaid Brently Benn he’s gotton money from the KGB, CIA, Nigerians and probably Tim Stoen gave him some bread (said he had done this through trickery through the years), Wills wanted us to bring articles of P.T. from Brently Benn

-(Ref. to Walter Rodney) He spoke in Antiga, he is not even allowed in Antiga now, was refused, stirs up black powerism. Walter is an intelectual socialist.

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(2)

-How does he get to the states so often, offeredto lecture at Harvard, Yale…

-you’ve got to be in a certin category to..Look at me, I’m a retired Foreign Minister. No Americans jumping at me, offering me a trip to the states.

-He told us to be in touch, he would try to contact Bishop.

-Wills said, I know what is not off, the decission is yours

-Fred said he wasn’t in a positon to say that “we are not Americans”, as the Foreign Minister (don’t know in what contex he ment this)

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D-1-I-9

[Editor’s note: This page also appears here.]

([former Guyana Foreign Minister Fred] WILLS SAID HE NEEDS B VITAMONS)

Wills 1/4/78 [April 1, 1978]

(Sharon [Amos] and Larry Schacht) – we stopped by to bring him some oranges and to chat

– he asked if you were in town/ we said you were but that you were incognito because of the security problem. He said he thought you were in town

– he said [Deputy Prime Minister Ptolemy] Reid sent his driver to him (Wills) Friday and wants to send Wills to England sometime soon maybe in April or May and that the govt. will pay for it

– re the decision on John, he said it was still positive on the decision, the question is time/ it may take time as [Judge Audrey] Bishop is wrapped up in the Bookers decision now

– regarding our popularity (which I mentioned to him) from the show etc., he said our propaganda is fine, we just tend to over respond to things

Re the immigration thing (what [US Embassy Consul Richard] McCoy said to us about John [Victor Stoen] couldn’t leave the country until the case was solved)

– I asked him if it was to benefit Stoen or us and if it would restrict JJ as well as Stoen/ I said there were no plans to take John out but I just wondered if

[Paragraph underlined] – he said that he knew for a fact that this rule was made for Jim and John not for Stoen by the “upper caucus”/ he said it is not a rule but an understanding but when I asked how immigration will reveal it to the Amer. Embassy, he said that they probably found it out from the CIA

– he said the understanding is that nobody could move John without Jim’s permission

– he said that the longer a child lives in a foreign country, the better it is for the case

– he said that if anything does go wrong in the case, we’d be surprised at the influence he (Wills) could have/ he said he won’t tell us more about this (as I asked him for details)

Re USSR

– I told him the Russians had come to dinner and wondered what this would mean in regard to their feelings about us/ he said maybe they are moving faster towards us than before

[Paragraph bracketed] – he said that the Russians move slow/ we want to cultivate us on the one hand because they never had dissadents leaving the US/ and the Ambassador Kotonev has a bonanza on his hands with 1000 possible dissadents (I AM TYPING THIS BY CANDLELIGHT DUE TO THE BLACKOUT SO I HOPE IT IS ACCURATE)

– Kotonev according to Wills coming to Guyana is either young or on the way up, and since he’s not young he’s on the way up as Guyana is not the kind of placement that represents a final step. He would be very nervous in his relationship towards PT and would inch towards us/ that way if it goes well, he has a bonanza and he gets credit, if it doesn’t he doesn’t lose so much

– he would go gingerly/ USSR can be slow to believe things – he said that USSR was slow to believe Hitler was a rogue, then when they realize that, they were inflexible

– he said they are friendly with Encomo (spelling) [Joshua Nkomo, leader of Zimbabwean Patriotic Front] and he’s no [not] left wing

– the Russians go slowly in generall as they are afraid that [Guyana Prime Minister Forbes] Burnham will say to them “you’re too friendly with [Guyana opposition leader Cheddi] Jagan, get out”

– and the Russians want to be heree – they have had satelites close to the USSR but have had no “children” under the US belly until Cuba and now they have Guyana and Jamaica

– regarding the charge that 80% of the press could be true, he said they might just be alleging that as a technique to find out our reaction

– he said that the Russians are probably checking us out in Guyana, in NY, Washington, and California (their representatives theree)

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D-1-I-21

DEBORAH TOUCHETTE
APRIL 9, 1978

FRED WILLS
VISITED BY: SHARON AMOS
TIM C. [CARTER]
MIKE PROKES

– Minister Hope was caught trying to leave the country, the Private Minister doesn’t want him to leave, so virtually he’s under house arrest. We think it’s [balance of sentence illegible]

– Wills said we should look at things this way, a) no Peoples Temple member has been [several words illegible] of the country, only one case in court in four years, US government officials [several words illegible] after being hostile in the beginning. Wills pointed out that if [several words illegible] was leaving, naturally he wouldn’t be afraid to support us.

– People’s Temple integrated in the PNC, said PT were stars of the Georgetown conference, making cultural impact on the national scene.

– Wills thought we handled the political and cultural scene beautifully.

– Said it would be at Guyana’s advantage to go for Jim (decision), the People’s Temple is Jonestown in Guyana.

– Said the PT liked the [illegible balance of sentence]

– said all he’s heard about us is good things lately, about our show.

– Reid doesn’t like to be bugged, he likes his own [illegible word]

– “The Palson Gallery” as if someone disagrees in cabinet and all others agree, Mrs. Burnham, for example won’t see Jim, (if one person disagrees in Parliament when a palace decision is called for, and one disagrees, the answer is no.

– He understands Burnham has a Chinese option in the US as a fourth option, (this is in reference to Burnham’s travels and seat of monetary assistance) if they do that

– It requires a Foreign Minister, and he has to know how to sundance

– so the government could take the money [illegible word] under the rug and curse capitalism in the next breath

– [illegible name], ambassador of Russia is frightened of us. (Peoples Temple)

– If he has the opportunity to prove the US is bad with 1000 US citizens here, and doesn’t, he loses face.

– Victor [illegible name] (#2 second first secretary-Russian Embassy) & Carvail (first Sec) said to be [illegible word]

– Sharon asked him why didn’t he introduce us (ref. Timofeyev introducing us to KGB)

– Wills said, “well they were in a rush and watched you on the TV as you met.

– We took him some mangoes

– The parents of the young man who’s been bothering Bruce Oliver came to the house at Wills’ request, I gathered from the conversation

– Wills warn them to tell their son to leave the People’s Temple alone, said he was doing a criminal act to enter our property and [illegible words]

[last 10 lines on page illegible]

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[Editor’s note: This page also appears here.]

Sharon Amos

9/4/78, [Fred] Wills, Phone call

(Prokes talked to him and I listened)

-Wills commended us for our radio show a couple of days ago/ he said Prokes introduced Marcelline [Marceline Jones] and it was a good interview

-he said that Jennifer Small (radio Antilles) is out galavanting with Carey Parker around the Caribbean/ he is the man who tried to bribe the cricket team (not Cabinet but the actual cricket team) to take more money or ask for more money (anyway he said we ought to watch it with the Smalls, Pat Small was the one that sent us the invitation to come to the program with the No. Koreans)

-regarding Stanley Moore (attorney and broadcaster who is a friend of Rex McCabe [McKay], who is a friend of Bunny Mann’s [Laurence “Bunny” Mann]), he said that Stanley went and talked to Judge [Aubrey] Bishop, which he had asked Stanley to do (Wills asked him when we were there at Wills’ house and Stanley Moore was visiting) but Stanley goofed it up by saying to Bishop “Wills asked me to ask you about the

the PT case” and Bishop clammed up and changed the subject, Wills said the situation became delicate

REGARDING OUR INVESTIGATION

-Wills checked it out, it is an intra party thing/ the people doing it are not connectedwith “upstairs”

-Hoyt might be involved but Wills doesn’t know

-Wills will check on it further

-it is a party thing but is not sanctioned as so by the party

-he said not to let any of these people (PM’s guards) to get entry to the house

-Dr. [Ptolemy] Reid doesn’t know about it

-he talked to (Wills did) Dr. Reid last night and night and knows how he’s operating

and he couldn’t go in that direction

-Wills said to seehim tomorrow

Wills Visit to him 10/4/78 Sharon. Mike, Debbie T

– he said that the people marching down town around the Parliament building are marching for women’s rights, it’s to build up support for the referendum on the new constitution

– he said that they kept up out the issue of women’s rights so it could be used as a strategy this time

– there are also a group of people marching against the government

– we asked him about this and he said that most of the people are against the government but they are also against CJagan and don’t see him as an alternative

– he is mad, Wills is, because he wants to get the permission to practice officially as an attorney and first he needed some kind of paper but it got routed to Collins and Collins is holding it up/ also his pension is being held up by Collins (Wills said that if he gets back in a job he’ll watch “his flanks”

– he said that Burnham told him that after he (Burnham) gets back from USSR and this thing is worked out with the referendum, they’ll [there’ll] be a shake up and the implication (Wills thinks) is that Wills will get a position or even his old position, he said Burnham told him that it didn’t make sense to change the foreign minister with all the other upheavals and with the black [illegible word] etc.

– he said that the reason they are putting in a new constitution is to change the part of the election (as they don’t want an election as they probably wouldn’t win) so they have a referendum to OK the constitution and the constitution delays the election for some future time

– Wills is feeling badly, he feels lassitude, he is worried there won’t be follow-thru on his surgery etc.

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D-1-I-7 (1)

Sharon Amos

WILLS 13/4/78 (Debbie [Touchette], Mike [Prokes], Sharon)

– regarding the situation now in this country, I asked about the demonstration against the government and what he thinks about it

– he said it was composed of some PEP, and some QUIANA (this is a group that used to be PNC and turned against PNC)

– regarding his suggestion on what to do for the country, he said he’d get rid of some of the Ministers like Kennard and King/ he said King is a discredit to socialism and we asked why he wanted to get rid of Kennard. He said that the reason he’d get rid of Kennard is that agriculture is essential and they need someone other than Kennard to rally the country in this area/ Kennard isn’t that type of person (He’s not enthusiastic and has no charisma in this area)

– also he’d have some young activists for the country

RE IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE SAME KIND OF THING COULD HAPPEN THAT HAPPENED BEFORE WHEN PM WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY:

– it is possible but not probably, Reid is heading the govt, and also Mingo is making speeches for Hoyt and it’s not likely that with them in position it would happen

RE: our participation in the PNC (Mobilising) and their ’’seeming interest in us”

– he said he always told us that we were needed by them

– asked on what level it is

– we said that Robert Williams had asked us to participate in these May Day meetings at the Ministry of National Devt. [Development] (Debbie and me) and he said at first that Dr. Reid had to say yes if we were involved/ then he said that Robert is green (new) and tho he is on a very high level we should tell Mingo that we’ve been asked to participate and have Reid clear it

– we also told him about Charles Lawrence (our local PNC head) who encourages our participation and Oscar Duke in our PNC (He said that Oscar is Reid’s new permanent secretary, Winnie Agard is on leave)

– Re Duke, he said Duke is over enthusiastic, his judgment is a bit of a problem but he is a good man to lead people generally

REGARDING THE REVOLT AGAINST THE GOVT

– he said it is a conservative bread and butter revolt

RE COALITION GOVT BETWEEN JAGAN AND PM

– he said that Jagan and the PM have a pathological hatred against each other/ they couldn’t work together it’s gone too far

– he said that Jagan did have a plan at one time for a coalition govt, like the Minister of one dept would be PNC and the Perm. Sect PPP and vice versa but they (the PPP) wanted the foreign Minister to be PPP (for closer ties to USSR)

– Wills at one time was for a coalition (but later I’m sure when he found out he’d be ousted, he was very much against it – when he talked to us before about it) – the PM is the one that turned it down

– PM would only do it if he could keep power and shelf Jagan later

IMF

– he said that PT wouldn’t be affected by the IMF

– said he didn’t know if IMF was approved/ said IMF has several phases/ the first phase was tiven [given?] some time ago/ that’s where there is no ties and they freely give

– the second phase would be this present phase if it is approved/ it would be for §80 million

– PM and Wills were once against the IMF because of the problems connected with it/ but the PM is realistic and realized that people won’t do without consumer goods

– the purpose of the IMF is to take care of the problem Guyana is having with the balance of payments (consume more than they export) and they need the money to buy goods for the people

–Wills said the realistic thing to do is to take the money and then carefully “orchestrate”

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the situation between USSR and US [struck out words: “so you don’t get manipulated”]

RE THE LIKELIHOOD OF USSR HELPING

– he doesn’t think USSR will help much

– he said the IMF started back in 1950’s when the European countries needed help/it was a loan/ money was borrowed from the larger countries to “help” the European nations. He said later it was extended to developing nations but it is a measure to control thru the US tho it was done the way it was with the World Bank involved and other countries like Canada so that it could appear to not be tied to the US. He said that what often happens is a country has a coup and a dictator is put in and then all of a sudden the IMF contributes money without being asked

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D-1-I-6

 Sharon Amos

WILLS 14/4/78
(Mike, Debbie, Sharon)

– he said that in most cases there is an automatic stay until the appeal but there are a few kinds of cases that you have to especially ask for a stay and he will check into those kinds of cases –

– he said that Lionel is going to have the job that they formerly offered Wills, with the Elections commission

– he called Hines about our Medical problem (the medical committee) –

– he said it’s a confrontation between petit bourgeoisie standards in conflict with the practical needs and the problem, of overextending oneself/ in other words the doctors want to keep standards up but then end up with not enough doctors to cover things

– he said the medical profession is even questioning Indian, Phillipine, and Cuban doctors that come here regarding certification

– there was an incident in Jamaica that people refer to/ Jamaica has a strong middle class and strong right wing/ most of the doctors are migrating out and Cuban doctors came to help/ fascist paper said people were dying because of poor medical care/ finally [Prime Minister Michael] Manley proved it wasn’t so (but Dr. Baird used the incident when talking to Larry Schacht and me as if to say, we can’t have that happen here, an incident like that)

Regarding the people that were on the medical staff we talked to

– Wills said that the woman Sandifor is a lesbian and she has to tow [toe] the line and can’t oppose the doctors because they know she’s a lesbian

– he called the team the “medical Mafia”

– re Dr. Baird, he said Baird’s father used to be the headmaster of the Moravian Church

– he said that Commissioner Barker is the distant cousin of the PM/ he said there was an incident with a man (the case was called Carl Batson and Emmanuel Fair) and the case didn’t even reach the jury as the PM put Barker out of it/ a tear gas canister was exploded by a man’s genitals and his scrotum was terribly swollen

– regarding Barker making a big fuss about parents not being able to visit their children (the Olivers) when we have parents come all the time

– he said Barker is probably relating personally to it because his daughter ran away with a man and Barker begged to see his daughter, he begged everyone around and he couldn’t see her

– Barker was the one that pulled the guard off Wills right away before the guard was supposed to he pulled off

[first word illegible] POLICE HAVING TO GIVE IDENTIFICATION: (we asked hlm about this)

– he said they must show ID, it’s called the Elias and Lassmore case

ARREST ORDERS

– order Nisi, (this is the order that was originally made for JJ to produce the child)

– the orders are bad/ absence of proof, they should dismiss the action and award the child to JJ

CUSTODY CASES

– regarding that committee of parents

– he said that if any more cases are tried, it should he orchestrated (by Darnsell) so that the cases of those over 18 are tried first

– Wills feels that the current of govt will move left into more anti-American leadership style

– regarding the pro-American people in Govt, he said they will do what the PM said/ he feels they can’t face the masses without the PM/ only he can face them (the PM) and thus they won’t vote for anyone but the PM

– He feels the tide has been running pro-PT ever since the Stoens left as he feels we have had good publicity (regarding the show etc)

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[Editor’s note: A second copy of this memo appears at D-1-I-15]

DEBORAH TOUCHETTE
APRIL 17, 1978

FRED WILLS
APPT. W/ MIKE PROKES, SHARON AMOS, DEBORAH TOUCHETTE

– Sharon asked about the Stoen issue?

– Wills said in most cases it’s an automatic stay, but if it’s not a case in general, you start over the whole case with an appeal. It centers around liberty.

– He said Lionel’s [Luckhoo] going to be the elections commissioner, he’s going to take my place.

– said he talked to Hamilton Green, and he’s trying to talk to his asst.

– the Permanent Secretary Hines. He said there was a competitiveness between petty bourgeoise in relations to standards (ref. to Dr.)

– Wills opinion, is if we don’t let guys like Larry do it, we will extend ourselves too much.

– He said in Jamaica, middle class and right wing middle class persons complained that Cuban doctors were medically inept, that people were dying because of bad medical doctors. Manley found it necessary to investigate the situation and found out otherwise,

– He said P.T. was suffering from Cubanism, in that Guyana’s doctors are investigating this and may look onto us in the same fashion

– Wills suggested they might send in a Cuban with an interpreter to take Larry’s place. The guy will be nervous for a while because all Cubans are afraid of the United States because of the trauma of the past.

– He said our two strongest cases are agricultural and the medical.

– said Bairds father used to be the Headmaster of the Arrabean church

– Barker is a distant cousin of the Prime minister

– (ref. to situation of torture to talk) Botsum. a man came and Barker and McClean (head of Nat. Service) and some other guys were trying to get him to make a statement, a confession, they put an explosive up next to his scrotum and let the explosive go off and blew his scrotum to hell

– there was a bet that it wouldn’t reach the court.

– Wills said, Barker locked up half of Georgetown and said the crime wave was down.

– said Barker had a daughter, she ran away with some guy, Barker couldn’t even get his foot in her front door. Barker asked Wills, begged him to help strengthen the ties between him and her, said he was a tyrant even in his own home. Very religious, very dominant, wanted to be able to pick her husband for her.

– Barker pulled the guards from Wills house, Wills called Mingo and said “What the hell is this, I’m not less vulnerable now!”. He has guards not

(ref. to Stoen case)

– He said the validity of the arrest is really before the court. He’s worried about saying his orders are good or bad. If he says the orders are good, he has to arrest Jim Jones. Joyce Touchette, she is joined because the custody consent. The legal document is claimed to be in her name.

–  Sharon told him  of the situation involving the hiring of mercenaries and that we would not let our children go, young children could not take deprograming.

– He  wanted to know what percentage of our children were over eighteen?

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D-1-J-6

[Editor’s note: A duplicate of this memo appears at D-1-I-14.]

DEBORAH TOUCHETTE
APRIL 17, 1978

FRED WILLS
APPT. W/ MIKE PROKES, SHARON AMOS, DEBORAH TOUCHETTE

– He suggested we invite the Chinese he suggested we invite the Chinese to visit Jonestown, because [Ptolemy] Reid likes the Chinese

– He asked what type of questions did Russia ask? agricultural; political?

– Mike said he wasn’t very probing at all, just absorbent

– Wills said it shows something that they stayed overnight, a lot of ministers have visited, but they are the first to stay, that is significant

– He thought there was relevance to the fact that the Russians chose to visit us while Guyana was in there country

– He felt Cuba would wait until Russia had gone, in that Russia gives so much aide to Cuba, something like 1.5 million dollars a day

– Sharon asked why Reid like China?

– Wills said the Chinese don’t ask for curtageous conditions for side

– when they come to do a project they stay in humble drawings, do their job and leave. Reid likes that. They know you have to industrialize so they can help you out with things like cotton mills and glass factories etc.

– sent USSR has twenty-four people in Guyana, same as the U.S., and this does not include their wives, or families

– said USSR has servants for their ambassador, but it’s a cover for the KGB

– said there were more Cubans in Guyana then U.S. people or Soviet people

– said there were one hundred and fifty when he was in office

– said the Cuban ambassador likes women

– (ref. to taking people in, said Russia would look at us for a different reason then Cuba eg. Russia wants assessments, Cuba’s a Latin agrarian country, they would see us as a political force, they might use us as a eg. of multiracial socialist (ref. to this bring a problem in Cuba. – Wills said he was responsible for the situation in Lima Peru in 1975 Aug. in getting South Korea thrown out of the non-aligned movement, said when he went to visit, the President who greeted him, was the not the presides who saw him off. (coup-d’etat) ‘

– said Castro has crisma [charisma], you would be captured by him

– said he would rank as one of his 12 men (ref. to if highest men in character

– said he liked the fact that they (Cuba) were not rigid

– the Soviets aren’t so rigid either, but they make others toe the line

– said he didn’t know if Castro lived humbly, said be moves alot, very security conscious, the CIA is trying to kill him.

– said Amin (Uganda) they have religious wars, mentioned that David Livingston died there in Uganda.

– said Amin was an opportunist, and that’s why he moving pro-U.S.

[Handwritten notes at bottom of page]

– Said Bascom from Guyana Co-op was arrested for fraud

– Said Carmichael left the country (hearsay) they can’t locate him. It’s being said Wills took money to Matthews Ridge to Carmichael & now Carmichael has skipped the country.

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[Editor’s note: A second copy of this memo, with additional notes as the bottom, appears at D-1-J-6.]

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D-1-I-15

[Editor’s note: A better copy of this memo appears at D-1-J-5]

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D-1-I-12

From: Prokes

Meeting with Mario on Tues, April 18^th: Wills was worried about Carmichael disappearing because he said they are distant relatives and he (Wills) may be linked to the disappearance. He was worried that Carmichael may have taken money with him – he didn’t say from where, When he first told me about it, he said his word was that Carmichael was “on the lam.” Since Wills’ guard – Gaul – told some people that Wills gave him (Gaul) half a million to deposit in a VNewev York bank, Wills feared that some people might link him to Carmichael’s disappearance – particularly if Carmichael took $$$ with him.

I asked Wills if he ever had us investigated and he said of course he did. He said what would I expect when a bunch of women come into his office with our type of approach (I presume he meant aggressive.) Sharon asked him what he found out. He said nothing, or I would not have had you come back. She asked him how he investigated us and he kind of smiled and said that there were some things we can’t talk about. From this I concluded one of two things: he didn’t have much of an investigation and thus didn’t want to reveal it because it would show he wasn’t as sophisticated as he led us to believe (as far as intelligence gathering), or he is still keeping tabs on us for someone and doesn’t want to give anything away as far as techniques that might be used against us. The man is an enigma to me. What is he getting out of our relationship? I don’t think he is seeing us out of loneliness because people come to see him all the time. He has given us inside information but maybe he thinks it’s necessary to keep our trust. Frankly I’m suspicious of him. Looking at the other side, however, I suppose he is grateful to us for various things. He said he if it weren’t for Larry, he would not have quite smoking and would not be getting an operation. He said he had a death wish and mentioned that when he thought about it on three occasions, something JJ had said to him made him want to keep going.. I think he believe that JJ was sincere in offering our people up to protest his firing. He mentioned this to one of our people when I wasn’t there. Perhaps that means a lot to him. I don’t know. Like I said, he’s an enigma.

I asked him how many people the Soviets have in their Embassy (because I had seen a lot of different faces). He told me they demanded the same number as the American Embassy has – which is 24. I asked why that many were needed and he said they are not, but by the time he became foreign minister, it was too late – the Americans already had that amount and there was no way to cut back without causing diplomatic problems. The American actually have more than the Soviets because the U.S. has other agencies here, such as USAID, USIS, and others. WILLS SAID GUYANA IS A [illegible word] OF ESPIONAGE, because it is the only Socialist country in South America. He referred to it variously as a spy base and hunting ground. He said the fact that there are many British and Canadians here is also significant in terms of foreign embassy interests.

HE SAID HE ARE VALUABLE TO THE SOVIET AND CUBAN EMBASSIES IN THAT WE REPRESENT A FORCE THAT CAN HELP WITHSTAND THE ONSLAUGHT OF CAPITALISM IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD. Plus, he said it was significant that we are multi-racial. I think he meant that it gives what we stand for, more credibility.

He said he was checked out by someone who he knows is a CIA agent – he could tell by the guy’s questions. Wills interprets the visit as attempt to see who would be the best successor to Burnham. (The guy came ostensibly to get Will’s advice on some matter, which Wills said was a poor cover. Something to do with agriculture I think.)

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Wills dropped something of a blockbuster to us. He said he couldn’t talk about it, then proceeded to talk about it. He said we could expect to see troops in the Northwest in Mid-May. He said it had nothing to do with us but implied it had to do with Venezuela. I asked him why that particular time and he said it was because of the domestic crisis – and I don’t know what that has to do with Venezuela. He acted as if this would benefit us (the troops) because it would serve as a deterrent to any mercenary activity that might be forthcoming. But it seems obvious that this will be used to assure that things go well with the referendum as a means of protecting the party in power. I see grave problems when the troops decide they want to march into Jonestown. Burnham, if he doesn’t know now, better learn quick that he’ll have a war he doesn’t want if that were to happen. If we are to stay, we’ll have to have absolute guarantees, and there is very little time. It’s going to be difficult to protect Wills as a source of this, if we even want to keep him with us.

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April 22, 1978
Deborah Touchette

Fred Wills
Appt. w/ Sharon Amos
Mike Prokes
Deborah Touchette
Carolyn Layton

– He said a referendum only once a majority

– Cheddi, Rodney & Quanis are against it

– He doubts that an election will be held

– He felt they might do one of these things:

1. a) Push Cheddi to be subservice, to burn cane fields, etc., then he’ll call a state of emergency and run the country
2. b) Provoke Surinam and declare war between the two countries and declare a state of emergency and run the country
3. c) must have a referendum in June

– but he doesn’t agree with the Surinam option

– They might encourage Cuban troops to come to Guyana, it’s the Cuban foreign policy to keep the US busy all over the world, to disperse their efforts by interfering in Angola and all over

– They always use one issue, they get gov’ts to invite them. If they could get Burnham to invite them, there’s no legal complaint

– Likely Brazil would come, they would judge America wouldn’t come right after Vietnam

– The Cubans have three battle testing divisions… Brazil never fought except the last world war and they are rank.

– South America would run from the Cubans, they have modern weapons.

– Brazil would think twice before defending Surinam if the Cubans were here.

– US doesn’t care [balance of line typed over]

– didn’t think US wanted a naval base here.

– They would only be concerned of an area where they were making profit, and they make zero profit in Guyana.

– Wills said he wouldn’t have gone to Russia now. Unless the Russians would give money if the IMF wouldn’t (said they wouldn’t without heavy conditions)

– Said he had faith in the PM [Prime Minister Forbes Burnham], but not the PM’s advisors

– Bunnie Mann, Collins, and Hubert Jack told him he could get both from the IMF and money from Russia. He was told whatever the IMF did the Soviets it wouldn’t matter.

– Carolyn asked if something happened to the leaders, what would happen?

– He felt Hoyte & Green would go right, but the grassroots are on the road to irretrievable left.

– Said he thought the Soviets are more clever than given credit (ref. being that they would not let it go right)

– He said we have problems of consumerism. The cinema showing guns, cars, & women…

– Jack is PM’s  favorite, but he has no charisma.

– Green has a bit of power, Wills has a bit

– But Green is not intellectual, can he make big decisions? Is a worry of the people. If Carter will fool him, he can’t predict

– Couldn’t work with Hoyte or Jack, (ref. to himself) they used Jack to get Wills out of power.

– The Surinam policy is Jack’s, Jack is trying to climb the ladder, you will see. Keep watching the newspapers.

– Said he heard nothing on the Stoen case, hadn’t tried.

– Said what we were doing was categorically imperative, we could become a symbol for the whole world.

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Wills 22/4/78    Sharon Amos

(present were Carolyn L [Layton], Mike P [Prokes], Debbie T. [Touchette], Sharon A)

– he said that in Mid-May troops will be deployed to various spots/ on the border of Venezuela and Brazil – admitted it was because of problems with the Constitution they were expecting to have but said it would help us (we don’t agree ) if mercenaries come in (I think he’s possibly been told to reassure us about this ahead of time so we won’t object. He is still hopeful of holding office again or thinks he s got the charisma to be PM [Prime Minister] so he would be quite willing to sell us out l am sure/ he said he was going to be meeting the PM in England, he said that on the phone)

– he said the people are desperate, the decision would go against the govt. If it were a regular election but in a referendum all they need is vote (even if hundred) and then there wouldn’t have to be referendums again.

– he said Quiana [a group that used to be PNC and turned against it], Walter Rodney, and Cheddi are against it

– but the problem is consumerism so they have to do something

HE SAID THERE ARE SEVERAL ALTERNATIVES PM COULD USE TO DEAL WITH THE CRISIS

– I) he could push Cheddi to violence (or do a sabatage act like burning the sugar cane fields and blaming Cheddi) and then declare a national emergency

– 2) he could push Surinam and then declare a national emergency in that situation

– 3) he could invite Cuban tripe troops in as he said it is the Cuban foreign policy to get themselves invited in and that keeps CIA all over the world diverted from Cuba ([illegible initial might invite Cuban troops in on the Surinam Issue) – we felt this was very unlikely as it would offend US/ he said that it would offend US but he didn’t think US would send troops in (other than mercenaries) as it was so badly hurt in Vietnam

– Cuba has 3 battle tested divisions/ Angola, Ethiopia – they won In So. Africa with Russian equipment

– We might send in Brazilians (who are the watchkeepers of the Caribbean)

– US doesn’t want Guyana to be a Soviet base and doesn’t want problems for the multi-nationals (tho they presently make no money here and Wills thought PM’ s trip to Russia etc would offend the US also, but I said I thought the US would be willing to let Guyana spout Socialist rhetoric and even make trips to Russia as long as the balance of trade is with capitalist countries which it is and as long as they have a hope for eventual business development here (which they may judging by the US Embassy view that Guyana has a lot of potential) – but I think he threw in that about Cuban troops to make us confused about this troop movement in mid-May

– Wills said if it was up to him he wouldn’t have gone to USSR right now because it messes it up for IMF aid. He said that PM is not even certain that he’ll get Russian money/ but Wills said the PM has been improperly advised by Mann, Collins, Jack thinking he would get both IMF (US aid ) and Russian aid and he was told the IMF would deliver and Wills doesn’t think they will

– he said that he heard from the Soviets about their trip to Jonestown but wouldn’t go into specifics tho said they of course said positive

– re a possible veer to the right, he said Hoyte, Green, Field-Ridley would go to the right/ he feels tho the grass roots won’t allow the socialism to reverse (I think this is totally untrue because everyone I talk to is pro-capitalistic         । ।

– he said the Soviets can’t afford two Cubas, they will tell Guyana just how far it can go but they can’t afford to support Guyana

– he said that regarding the next PM, Jack is the PM’s friend but he has no charisma

– he said Green has charisma and people generally trust him tho they didn’t know if he has the intellectual ability to handle Carter

– Wills said that he himself has charisma and his hat is in the ring

– Wills said he never could work with Hoyte and Jack because they used Jack to get Wills out and Hoyte too. (I don’t believe this as I think he right now would take a job if Hitler offered it to him and I think he was saying that to impress us)

1. the reason they need to have the referendum soon is that July 23rd Parliament would be 5 years old and it would no longer be valid without the referendum

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and it has to be passed by June 9th to become law

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